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Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You're trying to apply modernism to a movie that's beyond postmodern.
No I am applying the direct definition of antihero to the two characters in the movie that are obviously displaying those characteristics.
Definition of antihero
Anti-heroes are still good people, but their approach to achieving what they want might be different than what society deems "acceptable".
Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:32 am to Hayekian serf
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He puts her in her place
He knocks the shite out of her when she comes outta that cave
I think she nails it as well. Great role.
As to who the good guys are, Alejandro and Brosin are the lesser of 2 evils that Emily has to choose between. She knows she either has to unleash them on the cartel or go back to busting street level thugs and never making a real difference. They flat out say it in the movie.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:22 am to topcat88
I loved the movie.. It keeps you on the edge the entire time.
I still don't think I get the full message of the dead bodies in walls. They mentioned hostages.. What exactly was this about? Can someone explain it to an idiot?
I still don't think I get the full message of the dead bodies in walls. They mentioned hostages.. What exactly was this about? Can someone explain it to an idiot?
Posted on 1/8/24 at 3:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
This thread makes me wish Don Winslow hadn't gone insane and that the Power of the Dog trilogy would get made into a high end movie or show.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:54 am to Pettifogger
I started watching Sicario yesterday because of this thread. Got through about half of it. Liking it so far.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 7:54 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 12:06 pm to Pettifogger
Wait, did they cancel it? Last I heard fx had ordered the pilot, and I believe they had already cast a few characters. Will be pissed.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 2:04 pm to JDPndahizzy
I believe this was a reference to two incidents in which mass cartel graves were discovered. In 2010 and 2011 both involved Los Zetas and both took place in San Fernando. I could be thinking too much into it though it may have just been a way to kick off the movie. The San Fernando Massacres were much larger in scale than what is discovered in the movie.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 2:20 pm to PhilipMarlowe
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Wait, did they cancel it? Last I heard fx had ordered the pilot, and I believe they had already cast a few characters. Will be pissed.
I didn't know about the FX show, I just knew about the film rights that I hadn't heard anything on in years.
Hopefully FX will bring it to fruition and has learned some things since The Bridge.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 2:35 pm to Pettifogger
If y’all want a grittier and more stylized Sicario, check out Too Old to Die Young on Amazon. It’s not for everyone but it’s pretty entertaining and brutal.
Zero, Zero, Zero is great too.
Zero, Zero, Zero is great too.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 1/9/24 at 3:18 pm to CocomoLSU
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I started watching Sicario yesterday because of this thread. Got through about half of it. Liking it so far.
How do you only watch half of it?
Posted on 1/9/24 at 9:22 pm to NPComb
Because I started it late last night and went to sleep. I finished it a little while ago though. It’s good. Man, that scene with BdT and the boss was brutal. Same with the end scene with him and Emily Blunt. Now that I’ve seen it I plan on reading this thread fully tomorrow.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 12:42 pm to CocomoLSU
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Now that I’ve seen it I plan on reading this thread fully tomorrow
Wait till you get to the part where someone calls Blunt the antagonist.
Also not sure how anyone could see BDT as the hero in this.
Burn Notice guy is the only hero in that movie.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:45 am to topcat88
You do realize she’s an actress and actresses have to act based on their role of a particular character
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:55 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
I just noticed Sicario III is in early pre production ....
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:59 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:There are no "good guys" in Sicario. Kate isn't the "good guy," she's the audience stand-in. That's the only thing that makes her the protagonist.
I don't know who needs to hear this, but I'll make it clear: Josh Brolin, Alejandro, et al are not the good guys
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:09 pm to Death Before Disco
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There are no "good guys" in Sicario.
That is the point of the movie. Sometimes the government needs bad men to do bad things.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:40 pm to Death Before Disco
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Kate isn't the "good guy,"
I have to go check but I'm 99% sure I did not make this claim
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she's the audience stand-in. That's the only thing that makes her the protagonist.
Until the framing changes as the ruse is revealed and it shifts to Alejandro, who reveals "the Beast" (a normal-looking family having a peaceful dinner)
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:37 pm to topcat88
the thing that would have made this movie really unpredictable is if she would have really shot him in the end and not just threaten only to back down
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Until the framing changes as the ruse is revealed and it shifts to Alejandro, who reveals "the Beast" (a normal-looking family having a peaceful dinner)
They straight up tell the audience who the movie is about in the opening credits….
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