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re: Severance Season 2 Discussion (Spoilers)

Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:13 am to
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:13 am to
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In an era of most good TV shows giving us 6 freaking episodes then waiting 2 years in between seasons, I personally will gladly take more episodes of a good show as long as it is progressing the story/giving more character development. Which that episode clearly did, as well as exploring the outside world more in a series with limited settings.



I'd rather a show give me 6 tight episodes than a messy 10 like this season of Severance was IMO.



Posted by DoomGuy504
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:21 am to
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How you can't grasp the fact that Innie Mark just trying to save his life is not jealously is kind of hilarious. And you must have been looking at your phone during the Innie Outie video conversation at the cabin because you also completely missed the point of that.


I'm sure this has been talked about ad nauseum but outie mark and inner mark both got pissed when someone said their love's name wrong. It 's not jealousy at all. It's straight up feeling disrespected by someone who is saying they care but they can't even say the name of their wife/work wife's name correctly.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:22 am to
IMO this season is in the elite tier of television. I feel like calling it sloppy is judging it against itself. I find merit in plenty of the contentions here, but if those were used as the standard there would be like 5 acceptable series in the history of television.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:25 am to
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They will need food to survive a prolonged stay on the severed floor, so we will have to meet the culinary artists that created the coveted egg bar and exquisite Irv melon head.


After the credit the showrunners said that they were, and this isn't breaking news, were just running recklessly into the unknown with no plan. Had they behind the scenes planned it out, them getting away with anything from here would make sense. Them not having anything planned seems like it would mean they will very easily be caught. IF they are caught, I can't see any reason why they would ever allow Helena to go severed again. It is just not worth it for Lumon, it's clearly causing trouble for them

The "Dylans wife is waiting on Gemma on the outside to arrest her" is a blow my mind thought that I never would have thought of if it wasn't for this thread. I can see that happening but if Gemma is legit out with Cobel and Devon there waiting, I feel like Lumon cannot let Innie Mark out. It would literally just reunite Gemma and Mark and would just end any controvery the ending created. If Mark is allowed out, the current ending is technically a win win for both marks. In theory.
Posted by schatman
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:30 am to
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My favorite show of all time. Usually watch it every year or two. Just gets better and better as the show goes on. Gets better with each rewatch as well.


Not to hijack, but I just watched episode 9 last night of Season 1. Absolutely gut wrenching.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:31 am to
One thing I keep thinking about is that they have contingencies for remote activation or deactivation of severance chips.

I know they have said that the security room is on the severed floor, but:

1) I doubt that is the only place it can be done

and

2) There is some evidence that there are severed floors in many locations.
Posted by jlovel7
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:32 am to
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IMO this season is in the elite tier of television. I feel like calling it sloppy is judging it against itself. I find merit in plenty of the contentions here, but if those were used as the standard there would be like 5 acceptable series in the history of television.


A lot of the points against the show also may be resolved in the next season or coming seasons. Kind of dumb to assume we will be left hanging on everything. This show has actually closed a few loops along the way too.
Posted by jlovel7
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:33 am to
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The "Dylans wife is waiting on Gemma on the outside to arrest her" is a blow my mind thought that I never would have thought of if it wasn't for this thread


She’s a dispatcher. You could see her uniform in episode 9.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:38 am to
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IF they are caught, I can't see any reason why they would ever allow Helena to go severed again. It is just not worth it for Lumon, it's clearly causing trouble for them


This is where Jame’s comments about seeing Kier in Helly will come into play. Hopefully his hate for Helena will cause him to act irrationally in this scenario and insist on Helly’s continued existence.

I could see Dylan’s wife helping them in an attempt to ease her guilt about Dylan’s innie.

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I feel like Lumon cannot let Innie Mark out.


Mark went from useless to their most valuable asset once Gemma walked out that door. He is the best way to get Gemma back to finish Cold Harbor and to keep Gemma and Devon quiet.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 9:39 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:47 am to
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She’s a dispatcher. You could see her uniform in episode 9.


Know I knew that. Just was never a thought that came to my mind that she would be the one there to potentially arrest and/or assist Gemma. But I haven't given much thought to S3 what ifs.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:57 am to
One could speculate that she was the dispatcher on the 9/11 call and remembers the name/face from the newspaper and call, as its likely that Kier doesn't get a lot of deaths. She is there to secretly see innie Dylan and comes across Gemma in a kerfuffle with security.

Just a wild theory that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of this show's philosophical questions
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:16 am to
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IMO this season is in the elite tier of television. I feel like calling it sloppy is judging it against itself. I find merit in plenty of the contentions here, but if those were used as the standard there would be like 5 acceptable series in the history of television.



The show is masterfully directed and shot. Clearly expensive and shot on location. No show looks as good it as it does. That’s why I come back but I just keep getting frustrated with the shows plot and characters actions.

Take the marching band scene. It’s awesome but then I can’t help myself from thinking. Why have a full marching band of severed workers and not severed security?
Posted by DarthRebel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:20 am to
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He literally rode off into the sunset.



With a ton of unanswered questions. His backstory is probably the most mysterious and needs a proper conclusion.

It really looks like the wrote the ending of season 2 to be a series finale, if it had to go that route. They left just enough though to justify a season 3. With the greenlight of a 3rd season, which is being written now, I suspect Irv to be back in some capacity.

Looking at what was complete vs. what is left.

Mark
Completed - Help Gemma escape to freedom - proper ending to a series
Pending - Innie/Outie love triangle

Helly
Completed - Nothing concrete
Pending - Innie/Outie love triangle. Future of Lumon

Dylan
Completed - Innie being a bad arse, outie trying to be a better person because of it - proper ending to a series
Pending - I feel his story is complete

Irv
Completed - Rides off into a sunset - proper ending to a series
Pending - His entire backstory. Why does he know about the hallway, who was he talking to on the phone, what was with all the research?

Milkshake
Completed - Still a Lumon man - proper ending to a series
Pending - Is he still a Lumon man?

Cobel
Completed - Helped Mark get Gemma free - proper ending to a series
Pending - Can she reintegrate severed people and what is her future now as the brainchild of severance.

Drummond
Completed - Dead, frick that guy - proper ending to a series

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:20 am to
I love this show but do acknowledge I am not in love with the marching band scene or the existence of one at all.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:37 am to
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One could speculate that she was the dispatcher on the 9/11 call and remembers the name/face from the newspaper and call, as its likely that Kier doesn't get a lot of deaths. She is there to secretly see innie Dylan and comes across Gemma in a kerfuffle with security.





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Just a wild theory that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of this show's philosophical questions


Yea wouldn't mean much but just another way the show makes you have the Andy Dwyer reaction from above.

I don't know if I've ever been so oddly polarized on an ending to a season. Satisfied for such a good season of TV but let down in quite a few areas as well.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:41 am to
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I love this show but do acknowledge I am not in love with the marching band scene or the existence of one at all.
I agree that it’s out of place in the world they have built. I’d have to guess that it was just fan service to highlight Milchick more and Ben/Dan were fine throwing caution to the wind.

I like the scene for Milchick and the absurdity, but it really doesn’t belong and I personally prefer to keep things based in the shows reality. Things like all the cult weirdness is believable, we’ve done tons of weird shite throughout human history. The security stuff doesn’t bother me like some others due to the secrecy of severed floor.

But if you’re taking things on face value and keeping the integrity of the world intact, the marching band scene defies their own logic.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:53 am to
We are sort of led to believe that the amount of severed people is relatively small in the grand scheme of things.

And here is an entire marching band of college aged black people that are severed long enough to either learn to or to remember how to play instruments and do it together.

It defies logic a bit
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24078 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 11:14 am to
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But if you’re taking things on face value and keeping the integrity of the world intact, the marching band scene defies their own logic.


Yes absolutely. People need to sever (ha) their enjoyment of the scene on its own in the context of the greater world.

The goat people were a shock and in huge numbers but clearly they serve a religious purpose so I could see how major resources would be poured into that by Lumon.

The band thing really makes no sense in the logic of the world.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:06 pm to
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How you can't grasp


Again, and for the last time, it’s not a matter of not grasping, I just don’t agree with the premise.

There’s no fricking “neck beard”. Jeez, get over other YouTuber issues. The ONE person I’ve ever mentioned on this thread is some chick dental hygienist from Vegas or some such. And I’ve not even seen her vid on this last episode!

My views are my own. As always.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 12:08 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:39 pm to
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Again, and for the last time, it’s not a matter of not grasping, I just don’t agree with the premise.


Ok let me rephrase, you don't grasp the fact that you're not grasping it You legit think it's selfish on the Innies part to NOT DIE. That it is selfish for him NOT TO KILL HIMSELF. Whether you think he should have left or not, which I am with you, I would have rather him left, but I also understand why the Innie did what he did. It is not selfish to want to live.

There's no point in even mentioning you misinterpreting the Innie/Outie conversation again because you've never changed your opinion on anything ever on this board but I would think you'd at least realize that an Innie not wanting to die is a completely justified emotion/decision and not selfish.

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My views are my own. As always.


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