re: Severance Season 2 Discussion (Spoilers)

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There's a lot to this show that I find appealing. Escapism, good world building, so far, great cast, interesting characters and interconnecting plots of different worlds... and it's original. So rare to find in current day.

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I'm watching the YouTube you posted from the beginning - you linked it mid-stream.

It's funny she mentions The Expanse right off the bat, because you and I agree on The Expanse very much.

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But Spice IS a McGuffin. Same as the implant. It's the all wonderful Goober thingamajig that enables 'stuff' to happen. Like the override key chip from Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse.

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A MacGuffin is generally a device that’s necessary for the plot to happen but otherwise unimportant to the plot itself. The severance chip is central to the entire plot.

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And what could Ms Cobel explain? Oh, I dunno, like how she could arrange for the innies to leave Lumon and carry on existing outside of the office environment?

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1. We don’t even know if she’s capable of doing that.
2. Even if she is capable, there’s little incentive for any of the outies to participate. I mean they would basically be lying to Mark S. and telling him “don’t worry, we’ll schedule an innie picnic once a month and all your friends will be there.” He’s a smart guy and would see right through that. From what we’ve seen I doubt his own outie would participate in that sort of thing.

There’s also the fact that he basically gave his outie an ultimatum saying “if you want any chance to see your wife again, the next thing I see better be the elevator” or something along those lines.

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Let's just forget that everything the innies know, their indoctrination to Lumon policies that office relationships are strictly forbidden, yet here they are.

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That might be the most believable thing about the show.

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The only reason they're WITH each other is because their outties agreed to be severed and Lumon employed them.

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I mean yeah, that’s basically the outies’ POV. The show has spent 2 seasons showing us how that mentality affects the innies - from declined resignation requests when the innies don’t want to exist anymore, to “retirement” when they do still want to exist. We saw it very early on when Helena told Helly “you are not a person.”

The fact that they wouldn’t exist without their outies does not change the fact that they do exist. You don’t get to abuse a kid because you made him. The difference is that we, as a society, (mostly) accept parenthood as a responsibility while the outies never really accepted any responsibility for creating their innies.

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And again, what happens after Cold Harbor? What was the plan for MDR? That can't be glossed over.

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I mean.. yeah, it’s a mystery box show that hasn’t fully opened the box yet. We don’t know about the plans after Cold Harbor because they haven’t told us yet.

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If Lumon was effectively going to kill Gemma Scout, via wiping her memory , why not to the same with the rest of MDR? The key to all those answers has to be with Ms. Cobel, or at least include her to some degree.

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I’m reminded of the guy who bitched and moaned about how ridiculous it was that Mark just got into the truck with Cobel, without asking any questions whatsoever about what Lumon was doing with Gemma. Then at the start of the finale, it becomes clear that there was an entire escape plan formulated off-screen before they went to the cabin.

The point is, we have no idea (yet) what conversation Mark, Devon, and Cobel had after Mark called Milchick. That being said it’s not difficult to imagine that Mark would “retire” after completing Cold Harbor, whether his innie/outie wanted it or not. Dylan and Helly are only there because Mark refused to work without them, so it’s pretty clear what would happen to them in that scenario.

Devon blamed Reghabi for Mark’s condition and didn’t trust Reghabi to “fix it” when she caused it in the first place. When Devon suggested calling Cobel she wasn’t really looking for a plan to save Gemma, she wasn’t worried Mark might die. Devon was kind of on the fence about calling Cobel, but it spooked Reghabi and she bailed out. At that point Cobel was Devon’s only option.

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She talks a good bit before and after the vids. Has pretty good insight on things, but misses by a fair bit too. Entertaining, at least.

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This chick has no idea what she's talking about.

She still has no idea about innies and outies and how. Was there a chip? Some germ spreading?

Those are her words. This is what you think is analyzing or information?

I'm listening to a caveman explaining propulsion technology.

So link me someone that has some concept of what's happening.

I - unfortunately for everyone - rabbit hole reaction videos at times, so don't get me wrong, but holy shite, she completely misses the chip, implant as she's not actually watching the show.

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This is what I have. I watch what comes up sometimes on the algorithm, if it interests me, but I don't go wild & sub to every review or reaction channel. Just the ones which I find interesting.

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That wasn't really my point. Good for her and the media she is on, if that's either an outlet or income.

Again, I do rabbit hole reactions at times - especially music - and you can tell when people are being genuine or not. I am not saying she isn't genuine. I just need someone that can get some basics down and still be curious AF. Pose real questions. I have a lot of questions for this show too, but I tend to watch interviews with the actors, creators, writers, etc. along with how other people see the show. Again, this is why I choose to post on M/TV here.

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Devon would react to Reghabi fully committing to bail, and come around to her side but I guess that didn't happen.

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Devon saw that Reghabi would rather let her brother die than even discuss the issue for 30 seconds.

Pretty simple logic that she would be turned off by that and go the other direction

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7 was necessary

8 was a complete waste of time

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Let's not act like it was episode 3 of Last of Us. It at least progressed the story. In an era of most good TV shows giving us 6 freaking episodes then waiting 2 years in between seasons, I personally will gladly take more episodes of a good show as long as it is progressing the story/giving more character development. Which that episode clearly did, as well as exploring the outside world more in a series with limited settings.

While I *painstakingly* agree with you on the fact that this show, in this thread, is usually above reproach. Just the sheer thought of a potential criticism of the show is unacceptable. It's why I stopped posting in the thread during the season.

That being said, you're dying on a very dumb hill. How you can't grasp the fact that Innie Mark just trying to save his life is not jealously is kind of hilarious. And you must have been looking at your phone during the Innie Outie video conversation at the cabin because you also completely missed the point of that. That or there is some internet neckbeard that you obsess over has taken this stand and you just have to take the same stand as him. Whatever the reason, you clearly aren't getting it.