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Posted on 3/16/25 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by jlovel7
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 12:26 pm to
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What was the point of the reghabi storyline this season if she is going to bail? Feels like a waste of time, should have just had cobal doing that and put the cobal episode earlier in the season


To start the path of his reintegration and set up why they need to seek out Cobel. Cobel is clearly a much higher level player than Reghabi. I’m sure she will reappear but for now her purpose has been served. Cobel is far more interesting now to be working with. It was a great transition.

At most Reghabi reintegrates mark, then what? Cobel is now known to have invented severance and knows about cold harbor. She’s a much greater asset. Plus she gives them access to the cabin when Rhegabi said that wouldn’t work. Well. It did. And now they can talk directly to Marks innie. Which they’ve been trying to do since early this season. That’s huge.
This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 12:28 pm
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 12:34 pm to
Devour feculence

Fetid moppet

The insults are top kier in this show

Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 12:53 pm to
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To start the path of his reintegration and set up why they need to seek out Cobel. Cobel is clearly a much higher level player than Reghabi. I’m sure she will reappear but for now her purpose has been served. Cobel is far more interesting now to be working with. It was a great transition. At most Reghabi reintegrates mark, then what? Cobel is now known to have invented severance and knows about cold harbor. She’s a much greater asset. Plus she gives them access to the cabin when Rhegabi said that wouldn’t work. Well. It did. And now they can talk directly to Marks innie. Which they’ve been trying to do since early this season. That’s huge.


The whole rhegabi to cobal arc could have happened in one or two episodes. Which has been my complaint for weeks now, it’s seems like had 6 or so episodes of story and had to make it 10.


Speaking of cold habor, the 12 hours they had in the woods together would have been a lovely time to discuss that but I guess they just made s’mores in silence
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 1:04 pm to
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The whole rhegabi to cobal arc could have happened in one or two episodes. Which has been my complaint for weeks now, it’s seems like had 6 or so episodes of story and had to make it 10.


Speaking of cold habor, the 12 hours they had in the woods together would have been a lovely time to discuss that but I guess they just made s’mores in silence


I agree. Just watched the latest episode and it cemented for me that while so much activity happens in each episode, the pacing feels like it's at the speed of an arthritic snail for most episodes. We get small increments in story progression sandwiched between layers and layers of questions about Lumen and odd conversations. It's okay as a novelty for the first season or two, but eventually you have to pick up the pace by answering questions and moving towards something more substantive than just questions and weirdness leading to more questions and weirdness or else viewers will give up on the series and move on.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 1:17 pm to
Some of this banter is like someone watching Ex Machina and asking why are these 2 guys talking all the time.
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 1:21 pm to
My issue isn’t with them needing to add dialogue or answer obvious questions, it’s when characters act in insensible ways in order to move the plot. It isn’t sensible that Mark or his sister would just go along with Cobel and not ask any questions, or even attack her and try and force more information. As soon as they heard that Gemma was definitely in Lumon and about to be dead there would have been a whole line of questioning or different reactions and not doing so doesn’t really make sense.

And say what you will about assuming the cops are in Lumon’s pocket. They are committing human trafficking, kidnapping, and murder. You would be contacting everyone possible, including your family, friends, anyone you know to get help and alert authorities above what Lumon can control.

Why doesn’t Mark or his sister just immediately go to the press or call Ricken to do so?

Again I love this show and like the intrigue and how things are left mysterious. But that was one of a few interactions in the show this season that took me out of it for a little bit.
Posted by wesfau
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:24 pm to
We've seen "Allentown" in a few "outie" shots related to Mark/Devon (presumably PA, so in the winter a rust-belt city would look like the Kier, PE we've seen.)

There are also on the Testing Floor doors:
Wellington - New Zealand
Cairns - Australia
Dranesville - Virginia
Siena - Italy
Loveland - USA/Colorado
Tumwater - USA/Washington
Rhodes - Greece
Billings - Montana
Lucknow - India
St. Pierre - France
Zurich - Switzerland
Cold Harbor - USA/Virginia
This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 3:36 pm
Posted by lostinbr
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 4:20 pm to
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Trust her enough to go right along with her plan without any convincing or questioning.

Devon basically had to drag him there, and he complained the whole time about how it was a bad idea. Again, he’s out of options. Devon ran off his only other lead.
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The reghabi bailing was another good example of the characters acting in ways to move the plot and not rational what so ever. That whole scene was frustrating.

She bailed as soon as Devon said she was going to call Cobel. Reghabi isn’t rolling the dice on her own safety, and Devon spooked her (after basically telling her “you aren’t in charge anymore” also). Bailing was perfectly rational. It was an act of self-preservation.
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What was the point of the reghabi storyline this season if she is going to bail?

Reghabi is the reason Mark actually believes Gemma is alive. He was humoring Devon up to that point, but once Reghabi confirmed she was alive, Mark was all-in. We also don’t know what role (if any) Reghabi still has left to play.
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Feels like a waste of time, should have just had cobal doing that and put the cobal episode earlier in the season

Cobel was just disgruntled enough to help Mark when he had nowhere left to turn. That’s if she actually helps him, which remains to be seen. Regardless, we aren’t at a point in Cobel’s arc where it would make sense for her to solicit Mark/Devon.

Mark was just desperate enough to go to Cobel, and only because Devon forced the issue. Without Reghabi confirming Gemma is alive, and without Devon dragging him there, it doesn’t make sense for Mark to go to Cobel.

Mark’s failing health (following reintegration) was what led Devon to call Cobel in the first place. Prior to that, they were still trying to burn messages into his retinas. If she’s not worried about Mark’s health, it doesn’t make sense for her to call Cobel.

If you short-circuit those developments it doesn’t work. Could you change a bunch of other stuff to make it work? Probably. But at that point you’re just rewriting the plot, and the additional events needed to get to this point would probably take just as long.
Posted by Crimson K
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:52 pm to
-I’m hopeful the finale will clue us in what Mark’s reintegration accomplished. Seems like they could have skipped Reghabi altogether and just had Mark go to birthing cabin without any difference.
-The little girl, Huang, waiting for the bus was a little heartbreaking after seeing how f’ed Cobel’s past was. Her showing innie Dylan a little empathy made me like her a bit for the first time.
-My guy, Dylan, checking out was rough. I thought he’d go crazy and want to burn it all down. Wonder how his outie is going to take his innie making the decision for them.
-Helly had a lonely work day, ending with that creepy mfer sneaking up on her.
-I don’t see where Irv’s story has left to go, but I’d hate to lose the character. Turturro has been phenomenal.
-Milchik made me chuckle with the devour feculence quote, but still frick that guy.
-Harmony being all stoic and tight lipped was some bullshite. Mark should’ve wrecked her. I still don’t get what would’ve prompted Devon to call her. There’s no way she could’ve known Cobel was so knowledgeable about severance. It makes zero sense to me. She still came across as a baddie to me.
- I definitely didn’t get it at the time, but the twilight zone episode reference was pretty interesting.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:00 pm to
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Wonder how his outie is going to take his innie making the decision for them.


I don’t believe his outie will get the resignation request. They made him wait to take the elevator so he would leave at his normal time. I think he shows up to work the next day as a variant Dylan G innie.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:04 pm to
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it isn’t sensible that Mark or his sister would just go along with Cobel and not ask any questions, or even attack her and try and force more information.


Yes it is. Mark is in bad shape and they have no other option at this point. They are not going to bite the only hand that is capable of helping them.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:07 pm to
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I think he shows up to work the next day as a variant Dylan G innie.


Like, the same Dylan G but one who doesn’t want to quit or has no memory of meeting his wife?
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:14 pm to
I think a different Dylan G like the various Gemmas on the Testing floor. From Lumon’s perspective I’m not sure you would want to introduce that much chaos on Mark’s final push to finish Cold Harbor, so I’m probably 100% wrong. I’m just not ready to lose Dylan right after Irv.
Posted by lostinbr
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:16 pm to
It seems like bringing him back as a “fresh” innie would defeat the purpose of him being there. He’s only there because Mark refused to work without his team. If Dylan comes back and doesn’t know who anybody is, that’s going to cause a bunch of heartburn.

Could have to do with some of the other modes we saw in the control room though. “Goldfish” in particular comes to mind. Maybe they can selectively delete memories?

It’s an interesting thought.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:24 pm to
While we are on the subject of Dylan G, this may be one of my favorite shots of the show.

Posted by jlovel7
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:46 am to
I’ll be racing home from a dinner party on Thursday to watch this
Posted by BBMcGee
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:50 am to

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I’ll be racing home from a dinner party on Thursday to watch this


I'll be putting my husband to bed early so the puppies and I can watch. I ain't waiting for him to decide to go to bed.
Posted by Ice Cold
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:51 am to
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Nobody really wants “natural” dialogue in a TV drama, IMO. It wouldn’t be that enjoyable to watch. Part of the trick with good writing & acting is to capture the essence of those interactions in a way that allows the viewer to understand the characters’ motivations and reactions in a way that feels natural without actually being natural.
It occurred to me that Cobel arrive in broad daylight and they all hung out until night fell. WTF did they talk about the whole time? Share recipes? Reminisce about how Cobel pretended to be a lactation consultant for his sister and her baby?
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 10:00 am to
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I’ll be racing home from a dinner party on Thursday to watch this
Posted by jlovel7
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:03 am to
If you haven’t listened to the mini e book

The You You Are, you should. Actually gives some good little nuggets and it’s also hilarious. I don’t know where I’d put him, but I do wish we got a little more Ricken just for the comedy. He’s a great character.

Also apparently somehow Harvey Keitel and Sister Act are canon to the world severance is in
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