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re: Rumor: Disney considering splitting Episode 9 into two movies

Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:34 pm to
Says the guy who lies about upvoting his own posts.
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 1:37 pm to
I have never denied that I do. You just make up fake lies because youre entire life is based around it.

Godless fake fan.
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:04 pm to
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CockCommander



Which one of your characters are you playing today?
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 9:36 pm
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:47 pm to
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This is a stupid thing to complain about.


Ehh, I disagree.

It's a pretty huge headscratcher in relation to the rest of the SW universe.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 2:52 pm to
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It's a pretty huge headscratcher in relation to the rest of the SW universe.


No it isn't.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:46 pm to
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The opening crawl of TLJ literally says that TFO is busy occupying the entire galaxy.


Where did they get the time to do that? The film starts the second after TFA ends. It makes no fricking sense, and you would agree if you were intellectually honest.


The only way the First Order controls the entire galaxy, is to say Return of the Jedi (and the entire OT) was a failure.

Yes, they killed the Emperor, and they temporarily carved out the New Republic. Which apparently was a small system, capable of being wiped out by the destruction of a planet (or couple of them). So the First Order (Dudes in Stormtrooper gear, with Star Destroyers, TIE fighters and all the Empire's gear) remained in control of vast areas, and have since regained total control.

If that's the case, why the frick was Luke running a Jedi camp instead of continuing to work against the real enemy- tyranny and military oppression?

Did they really just make a syfy version of Crimean independence from the Soviet Union?
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:05 pm to
Beating the most powerful military force in history spread across an entire galaxy with a rebellion is all but impossible.

Tens of thousands of warships, billions of troops.

Its called the EU. Lucas helped create it.
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Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:08 pm to
I thought it was established canon that the Galactic Civil War didn't end until 4 years after the Battle of Endor with the Battle of Jakku ending the war.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:08 pm to
This is why I say TFA was worse for Star Wars than TLJ. Johnson sucks, but he isn't the first one to frick up Star Wars.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:43 pm to
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This is why I say TFA was worse for Star Wars than TLJ.


I'm actually starting to agree with this.

TFA should have done more world building. We should have gotten some exposition as to how the First Order came to be and why the Resistance had a merely loose connection to the New Republic. I initially shrugged off those complaints because I thought for sure the second film in the trilogy would answer some of those questions. Silly me for believing that was going to happen.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:48 pm to
Agreed. Plus, focus on Han, Leia and Luke together one last time as things begin to unravel or something. Build on established things and slowly establish the new characters. That COULD have been done but it wasn't.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:54 pm to
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They aren’t gonna retcon a Star Wars movie out of existence and they don’t care that people like you will boycott.



Then why the frick are they making a trilogy into a four film saga...cuz TLJ sucked and they know it
Posted by Rhames
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 5:04 am to
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Then why the frick are they making a trilogy into a four film saga...cuz TLJ sucked and they know it



They aren't. It's a bs rumor.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:12 am to
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This is why I say TFA was worse for Star Wars than TLJ.


I'm actually starting to agree with this.

TFA should have done more world building. We should have gotten some exposition as to how the First Order came to be and why the Resistance had a merely loose connection to the New Republic. I initially shrugged off those complaints because I thought for sure the second film in the trilogy would answer some of those questions. Silly me for believing that was going to happen.

Yeah, I can agree with this.

TFA was entertaining, but completely lacking when it comes to understanding what is going on in the big picture. If there are 'books' that explain it, that's a mistake, this is a movie franchise.
It was fun primarily because it was NEW SW, with some plucky new heroes.

Film 2 should have addressed the political landscape, and let the new heroes develop.
It sorta did- the opening crawl said the FO was in control of the galaxy (what?), the New Republic was gone (oh, those people we saw in a 3 second screenshot as they got blown up), and...
the new heroes aren't working well with authority. Poe is demoted and mutinies, Rey is told to kick rocks by Luke, Finn continues to desert.

the opening crawl is not the way to fill things in this much. We needed some exposition in both movies from the First Order folks, stating they were dealing with an uprising. Or call them the Empire directly, don't rename them. Something.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:32 am to
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Possibly because The Last Jedi did hardly anything to advance the story.



But it subverted expectations!
Posted by PJinAtl
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 8:33 am to
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TFA was entertaining, but completely lacking when it comes to understanding what is going on in the big picture. If there are 'books' that explain it, that's a mistake, this is a movie franchise.
This may have been Disney's biggest screw-up, was to take the cannon Star Wars universe and expanded it into the realm of books/comics and try to satisfy the EU fans who loved reading things that were outside of the movies.

They open up a lot more real estate in the universe, but for those who only watch the movies, they lose a good bit. The Battle of Jakku and the initial rise of the First Order is covered in the book Aftermath: Empire's End. It is the third of a book trilogy that begins not too long after Return of the Jedi and covers about a year. You find out how the ships get crashed on Jakku, you find out why Hux is important, and you find out how the First Order came to be from the remnants of the Empire, as well as the establishment of the New Republic.

They did the same thing with C-3PO's red arm in TFA - the story was told in a comic that came out around the time the film was released.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 8:57 am to
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This may have been Disney's biggest screw-up, was to take the cannon Star Wars universe and expanded it into the realm of books/comics and try to satisfy the EU fans who loved reading things that were outside of the movies.


There was a lot of garbage in the old EU, but this new EU just isn't good. Nothing worthwhile happens in the comics/novels because they're afraid to confuse the casual movie going audiences.

If given enough time though, Disney will muck up the new EU in their own way. You might say they've already started. Did you know that Luke Skywalker's first duel with Darth Vader did not occur during ESB?

I think what Disney was most concerned with when they rebooted the EU was not wanting to box in the writers/directors of potential new films. Probably not many of them are going to read 30 years worth of Star Wars fiction to make sure their movie set in between films doesn't conflict with established lore.

That said, I do wish that they would've left parts of the old EU alone, primarily the old Republic era as well as some of the novels set pre-TPM like Darth Plageius and Cloak of Deception.
Posted by Starchild
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:16 pm to
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You find out how the ships get crashed on Jakku, you find out why Hux is important, and you find out how the First Order came to be from the remnants of the Empire, as well as the establishment of the New Republic.


Go on...
Posted by PJinAtl
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:56 pm to
OK, how to sum up three books in a short space...

One of the few remaining Grand Admirals (Rae Sloane) has control of most of the remaining Imperial Navy. She is being "advised" by a shadowy figured named Gallius Rax, who was born on Jakku, discovered there and raised by Palpatine. Palpatine creates a secret base on Jakku and tells Rax to go there in case anything were to ever happen to Palpatine.

Rax dupes Sloane and has a larger portion of the surviving fleet go to Jakku. he New Republic finds out and goes as well. Giant space battle occurs, in which a damaged Republic cruiser uses a gravity well to pull a Super Star Destroyer to the surface of Jakku. Large ground fight as well.

Most of the Empire is destroyed. Rax dies. Sloane takes what is left of the Imperial forces and flees to a predetermined rendezvous in the unexplored territories beyond the outer rim. Starting over is their "first order."

Hux's father was the head of the academy that trained stormtroopers. He is abusive to Hux, but both go with Sloane. Sloane vows to protect young Hux. So I guess he grows up to become General Hux.

The New Republic capital moves around for system to system, but a large part of the infrastructure starts to get built on Hosnian Prime.

Leia gives birth to Ben Solo just as the third book ends, so using his age, you can tell how long the wreckage has been on Jakku. It also lets you know that Hux is a few years older than Ben/Kylo.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 2:09 pm to
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