re: Reviews for 'Joker: Folie A Deux' are very mixed

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Do we really need yet another Joker from muh comic books?

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There's kind of a reason he's a well regarded villain and character.

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I’ve never read comic books, but if you’re going to use a well established character as the center piece of your movie, stay faithful to the character and don’t go completely rogue.

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I don’t think I’ve ever read a single comic book (not above it, my similar childhood collection obsession just happened to be baseball cards), but I’ve always loved pop culture and movies, so I think I’ve observed enough over the decades to know that comic characters aren’t necessarily all that well-established.

Or there are multiple iterations of well established characters (semantics) where they look and behave in completely different ways based on the different authors(?) (Is that the right word?) who are hired to write different series with these popular characters and give them their own unique spins. I mean there’ve been like 5 or 6 different Jokers in film since Nicholson’s in ‘89, and they all could not be more different.

And that’s not just different actors playing the same character like the Keaton/Kilmer/Clooney era before Nolan put a different spin on him with Bale in a much different universe with a much different tone from the Burton/Schumacher one. Then we got the Pattinson one. And there’s been several Supermen since the Chris Reeves’ one that I grew up with, including a couple of small screen versions in Lois and Clark and Smallville.

One could argue that all those stayed more true to the origin and backstory of the characters than this Phoenix/Phillips take, and that is sacrilege. But not being a comic reader, none of these characters are so sacred to me that I object to how they’re treated. I just want to see good and creative movies, and this new Joker seems to at least be creative. I’ll see it as a fan of film—it at least looks fresh and interesting. And there are fewer and fewer of those that get theatrical release these days.

It’s a stupid and pretentious idea for a “comic book” movie.

Think about it, what if they eventually added “Batman”?

Are they going to make Bruce put on a dress and dance?

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I’ve never read comic books, but if you’re going to use a well established character as the center piece of your movie, stay faithful to the character and don’t go completely rogue.

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That's basically the point of these movies and why the first one was so successful and so good.

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The most remembered part of the first one was a damn staircase

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The most memed part, no doubt.

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Tommy Wiseau

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The musical aspect was by far the most off-putting imo, but general sentiment among those reviews seems to be more positive about the musical than the rest. Idk- I'll probably see it at some point but I was never as interested in this one as the first one

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I'm sure I will catch hell on here but the 1st one was garbage.

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It's okay. It's not bad and is pretty well made, but it's absolutely nowhere near as good as many believe. So many were starved for a great mainstream film that they tried to make Joker "great", but it just wasn't.

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hate when they put stuff like "I need to go home and fully process this..."

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Posters on this board do this all the time with Nolan movies lol