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Question about Gendry's possible skill-role in GOT
Posted on 8/29/17 at 12:00 am
Posted on 8/29/17 at 12:00 am
We have seen how Valyrian Steel can kill the White Walkers.
It's recepie seems to be lost, but as far as we have seen, only dragon glass and that steel can kill and battle them.
I don't know much about how metals are forged, but it seems as if the glass was mixed in with the molten process. Or do you think it would burn away any non metal impurities?
Feels like someone would have made the connection, which would possibly save on the glass to be rationed and made the most of, and at the same time, arming more men. Especially with arrows.
Do you think Gendry, as a lifelong steel worker, could manufacture a way of providing an army with these weapons?
It's recepie seems to be lost, but as far as we have seen, only dragon glass and that steel can kill and battle them.
I don't know much about how metals are forged, but it seems as if the glass was mixed in with the molten process. Or do you think it would burn away any non metal impurities?
Feels like someone would have made the connection, which would possibly save on the glass to be rationed and made the most of, and at the same time, arming more men. Especially with arrows.
Do you think Gendry, as a lifelong steel worker, could manufacture a way of providing an army with these weapons?
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 12:06 am to SEClint
perhaps
Posted on 8/29/17 at 12:21 am to SEClint
I hope thats the direction they're going in. It's been my theory that there will be 7 survivors, or somehow the Faith of the 7 gods will be the most prominent characters towards the end of the show, and will be the ones that are the most responsible for defeating the Others.
The Father- Tyrion?
The Mother- Cerci/Dany?
The Warrior- The Hound/ Jamie/Jon Snow?
The Smith- Gendry. I can't think of who els this could be.
The Maid- Sansa?
The Crone- Old Nan?
The Stranger- Arya
I've been playing with this idea since Religion (and prophecies) are such a big deal, and the 7 is really the only religion that doesn't have anything supernatural about it.
The Father- Tyrion?
The Mother- Cerci/Dany?
The Warrior- The Hound/ Jamie/Jon Snow?
The Smith- Gendry. I can't think of who els this could be.
The Maid- Sansa?
The Crone- Old Nan?
The Stranger- Arya
I've been playing with this idea since Religion (and prophecies) are such a big deal, and the 7 is really the only religion that doesn't have anything supernatural about it.
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 12:35 am
Posted on 8/29/17 at 1:13 am to SEClint
He's going to need to get some Valerian steel armour for Drogon and Rheagal.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 1:31 am to FunkasaurusReb
I hadn't thought of the 7, but:
The Mother - Dany (Mother of Dragons)
The Father - Jaime (True father of the "Baratheon" kids)
The Maid - Brienne (Maid of Tarth)
The Crone - Melisandre (no explanation needed)
The Warrior - Grey Worm (or Jorah, but Jorah is a Northman)
The Stranger - Sandor (even his horse was named "Stranger")
The Smith - Gendry (obvious)
Jon, Arya, Sansa and Bran keep the Old Gods.
The Mother - Dany (Mother of Dragons)
The Father - Jaime (True father of the "Baratheon" kids)
The Maid - Brienne (Maid of Tarth)
The Crone - Melisandre (no explanation needed)
The Warrior - Grey Worm (or Jorah, but Jorah is a Northman)
The Stranger - Sandor (even his horse was named "Stranger")
The Smith - Gendry (obvious)
Jon, Arya, Sansa and Bran keep the Old Gods.
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 1:32 am
Posted on 8/29/17 at 1:33 am to SEClint
Oh, and as I said in another post, I think he may reforge Ice. They made too much of a deal about that sword in both the books and the show for it to not have significance.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:20 am to ffishstik
That's why I thought Jorah would take Bearclaw and John would eventually get ice back
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:48 am to ffishstik
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Jon, Arya, Sansa and Bran keep the Old Gods.
Dany keeps no gods and Mel follows the lord of light
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:17 am to wildtigercat93
and technically, I suppose Arya serves the many-faced god now.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:34 am to ffishstik
It's better to have two Valyrian swords instead of one plus Ice is too big of a sword to wield properly.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:44 am to SEClint
Look for Sam to rediscover the recipe for VS or for Gendry to figure it out on his own. I bet it's in one of the books/scrolls Sam took with him when leaving the citadel. Either way, I'll bet it's coming back.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 2:05 pm to SEClint
I always thought he would end up figuring out how to make valyrian steel but it's pretty much too late for that now that the dead are beyond the wall
Posted on 8/29/17 at 2:08 pm to SEClint
quote:
Do you think Gendry, as a lifelong steel worker, could manufacture a way of providing an army with these weapons?
Couldn't Bran just use his GodswoodGoogle to wacth it being forged and talk Gendry through it?
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:15 pm to Pelican fan99
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I always thought he would end up figuring out how to make valyrian steel but it's pretty much too late for that now that the dead are beyond the wall
If it's as simple as grinding the glass up into the molten metal, there is still time.
The king is the only one with any speed on that extra fast dragon.
I assume bran has seen its destruction, Jon is on his way back.
It's about to get real...in 2 years from now.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 9:23 pm to Pelican fan99
quote:
I always thought he would end up figuring out how to make valyrian steel but it's pretty much too late for that now that the dead are beyond the wall
With the way time was handled this season (super fast) it's possible since his return from the Night King Marathon that he has been working on creating dragonglass weapons. I could definitely see him figuring it out with his smithing skills and the dragonglass available.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:30 pm to FunkasaurusReb
quote:Is it me, or have the 7 Gods been the only ones not active in this thus far?
I hope thats the direction they're going in. It's been my theory that there will be 7 survivors, or somehow the Faith of the 7 gods will be the most prominent characters towards the end of the show, and will be the ones that are the most responsible for defeating the Others.
Lord of Light- vested interest in Jon, revived him
Many Faced God- operating through Arya in this quest
Old Gods- operating through Bran in this quest
What have the 7 done, other than have their hold on the populace broken by Cersei? Serious question.
Do they even have a mention of the Night King in their teachings, or is their faith perhaps just a distraction from the active gods?
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:10 am to SEClint
My theory:
That when the ground up dragon glass is combined with the steel in the forging process, they glass may disappear in the process but the magical properties of the glass will remain and will make it Valyrian Steel.
Not sure how this works out with the apparent need for the person forging it to recite spells while doing so and the use of blood magic. Maybe these two aren't required after all.
That when the ground up dragon glass is combined with the steel in the forging process, they glass may disappear in the process but the magical properties of the glass will remain and will make it Valyrian Steel.
Not sure how this works out with the apparent need for the person forging it to recite spells while doing so and the use of blood magic. Maybe these two aren't required after all.
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:17 am to jmarto1
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That's why I thought Jorah would take Bearclaw and John would eventually get ice back
Ice is now two swords, baw.
Samwell has a sword, now, and he would be worthless with it - a Two-Handed sword like Ice was (at least in the novels) - Gilly has a better chance of mercing some undead with it than the fat hobbit.
This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 11:18 am
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:20 am to Ace Midnight
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Samwell has a sword, now, and he would be worthless with it
I'd defintely hand off either Widow's Wail or Heartsbane to the Hound, Tormund, or Jorah.
Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:03 pm to OMLandshark
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I'd defintely hand off either Widow's Wail or Heartsbane to the Hound, Tormund, or Jorah
I think Jamie is still a good enough fighter (and more to the point, enough of a main character) that he will wield Widow's Wail until the end or he dies whichever comes first.
Agree about Heartsbane. But who you give it to is an interesting question indeed. My pick would be the Hound. I don't think Tormund is really a swordsman. An axe is more his forte and dragonglass axes seem to be pretty practicable. Jorah is a good choice but if he is going to wield Vayarian steel I think it would be Longclaw if Jon is either incapacitated or flying a dragon.
I'd love to see the following going up against some white walkers:
Brienne with Oathkeeper
Jamie with Widows Wail
Hound with Heartsbane
Jon (or Jorah) with Longclaw
I'd also love to see somebody with Dawn to see how it does against WW/Wights but I guess it's too late for that unless they maybe pop a Dayne on us with the Golden Company. That doesn't seem very likely though.
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