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re: Quentin Tarantino and bad movies.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 6:11 am to jg8623
Posted on 12/23/19 at 6:11 am to jg8623
Perhaps the dialogue is not "normal". But characters have conversations in his movies that have no to little bearing on the plot. When you are at work, you definitely talk to your coworkers about non work shite all the time. It just happens different in his movies than most others. Not everyone is a fan of the dialogue and that's cool, I just happen to like it.
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 6:29 am to Pandy Fackler
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I really liked it.
That march through the snow was gripping and unforgiving.
I didn't like 'that march through the snow' and the conclusion. Having the black man humiliate the white man was just an excuse to maintain Tarantino's 'streetcred' to use the word n**i**g**g**e**r and get a pass.
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 6:31 am
Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:18 am to SoFla Tideroller
quote:Right. It's not dialog. It's just a bunch of coked-up gay quips strung together.
Characters don't talk like normal people
quote:It loses a lot when the shock value wears off. All of his movies do. I've watched Pulp with millennials and younger people and they're just not impressed.
Pulp was okay.
"Hey, watch this racist be forced to suck this black guy's dick." QT has a child mind.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:20 am to bamagreycoat
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know this won’t be popular but the greatest script Tarantino ever wrote was “‘True Romance”. I read a long time ago Brad Pitt specifically asked to make Floyd a pot head. So Pitt deserves credit for that part. It’s crazy he didn’t direct his best writing.
That is a great movie ! The shootout at the end is incredible.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 9:35 am to blueboy
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Pulp was okay.
It loses a lot when the shock value wears off. All of his movies do. I've watched Pulp with millennials and younger people and they're just not impressed.
I think it falls short on some younger audiences because they've seen some knock offs over the years.
I'm a little like you. Pulp was a novel, fun sorta movie to watch but not this transcendent museum piece that alot of these Tarantino disciples want to believe it is. But it was however good and inventive enough to spawn a few ripoffs over the years.
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 9:36 am
Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:53 am to upgrade
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There’s just something I like about Tarantino movies, I think the dialogue. Characters seem to talk like regular people in his movies.
You enjoy hearing the n-word?
Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:59 am to Pandy Fackler
Salma Hayek was the only thing good in From Dusk Til Dawn, but dang, she made it well worth watching.
QT is easily the most overrated director of this generation. I did like Django and Basterds. Most of his other stuff ranges from meh to OK.
QT is easily the most overrated director of this generation. I did like Django and Basterds. Most of his other stuff ranges from meh to OK.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 12:11 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
Tarantino is one of the all-time great directors who has a distinctive style that is oft imitated, but never very well. Very few guys changed cinema, but he's one of them. In a way, he's partly responsible for the comic book movie explosion though he's never done one, as he did a lot of the early heavy lifting to legitimize trashy cinema and pop culture detritus. He has a clear affinity for stuff that respected voices called garbage (hence his love for Pam Grier, kung fu, 70s cartoons, and blaxploitation films).
None of his movies are bad, tough it's no like he has many movies period. I'd say his weakest film is KILL BILL VOL 2. There was really no need for that movie to go two movies, and all of the interesting parts were in part one.
But to answer the OP, I think in 20 years, INGLORIOUS BASTERDS and ONCE UPON A TIME will be widely viewed as his best two movies (PULP FICTION will always hold a special place due to its importance in overall cinema and JACKIE BROWN will always be the official choice of Tarantino films among Tarantino hipsters as his actual best film to show off their taste and bona fides... it's great and underrated, but they will be wrong)
DEATH PROOF is probably his slightest film, but if loving Rosario Dawson trying to murder Kurt Russell with a long sequence of Zoe Bell due near impossible stunts on the hood of a car is wrong... I don't want to be right. And in a way, it's the most Tarantino movie out there. Just a glorious B-movie with no pretension to anything else.
None of his movies are bad, tough it's no like he has many movies period. I'd say his weakest film is KILL BILL VOL 2. There was really no need for that movie to go two movies, and all of the interesting parts were in part one.
But to answer the OP, I think in 20 years, INGLORIOUS BASTERDS and ONCE UPON A TIME will be widely viewed as his best two movies (PULP FICTION will always hold a special place due to its importance in overall cinema and JACKIE BROWN will always be the official choice of Tarantino films among Tarantino hipsters as his actual best film to show off their taste and bona fides... it's great and underrated, but they will be wrong)
DEATH PROOF is probably his slightest film, but if loving Rosario Dawson trying to murder Kurt Russell with a long sequence of Zoe Bell due near impossible stunts on the hood of a car is wrong... I don't want to be right. And in a way, it's the most Tarantino movie out there. Just a glorious B-movie with no pretension to anything else.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 12:14 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:One of the worst movies I've ever seen. Possibly second worst.
jackie brown
quote:Great movie.
death proof. Death proof of course being the worst by far.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 12:28 pm to Pandy Fackler
I kinda put Tarantino movies In a different class. They are generally entertaining but always the campy shite.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 12:31 pm to Pandy Fackler
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bad movies
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basterds
The frick is wrong with you
Posted on 12/23/19 at 12:54 pm to AlxTgr
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One of the worst movies I've ever seen. Possibly second worst.
You must watch only good movies.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 3:18 pm to Jay Are
quote:Me and Carson.
You must watch only good movies.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 4:02 pm to Pandy Fackler
I like Grindhouse/Death Proof for what they are. It is what it is. Happened to really enjoy Hollywood.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 4:06 pm to AlxTgr
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jackie brown
One of the worst movies I've ever seen. Possibly second worst.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 4:26 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
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You enjoy hearing the n-word?
Grow up. You know that’s not what I’m talking about.
Posted on 12/24/19 at 12:16 am to Pandy Fackler
Any QT in the 90’s was gold. His stuff after that dropped off significantly. The hateful 8 had its moments, but I didn’t really like the ending.
Posted on 12/24/19 at 12:43 am to Baloo
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Tarantino is one of the all-time great directors who has a distinctive style that is oft imitated, but never very well. Very few guys changed cinema, but he's one of them.
Isn't this contradictory? If no one else has done what he's done, then how can you say he's changed cinema. Sounds like you're saying he's a one-off, singular talent (I disagree) whom no one else has been able to successfully replicate.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 12:23 am to Pandy Fackler
Just came to say that I just got off of a flight and watched "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" and thoroughly enjoyed the frick out of it.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:59 am to SoFla Tideroller
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sn't this contradictory? If no one else has done what he's done, then how can you say he's changed cinema. Sounds like you're saying he's a one-off, singular talent (I disagree) whom no one else has been able to successfully replicate.
no, because he opened the door for independent cinema to take over the mainstream, and actual god directors with their own voices did swoop into the breech. Bad directors simply tried to copy his formula, not realizing there is no formula, and that's not the important part.
There's a huge difference between those influences by QT (nearly everyone in his wake) and the hacks who simply tried to ape his style with none of the craft.
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