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re: 'Pluribus' Vince Gilligan’s new sci-fi show now streaming. Spoilers Allowed
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:20 am to Napoleon
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:20 am to Napoleon
Episode 4 is another slow drag like 3. She's slowly developing a battle strategy but there's not a lot of intrigue.
I think a problem with this show is the "last man on earth" concept isn't that interesting from a series perspective. A standalone - like Castaway or Omega Man - sure, but a series revolving around an unlikeable bitch who has every human/survivability whim catered to by an army of servants is a harder sell.
Breaking Bad started with an amazing first episode but then it slowly built up into what it became with some slop built in between. Hopefully this will do the same.
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:14 am to AUFANATL
Yeah 4 is my least favorite. I was hoping the pirate lady would snap out of the Hive under the drug. That would have been somethingm instead she had a heart attack.
So nothing really happened it began and ended with her in hospital.
So nothing really happened it began and ended with her in hospital.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:52 am to Napoleon
I’m enjoying the show. It’s going to be a long story and I’m enjoying finding stuff out each week. Usually don’t like slow burns, but it being original and weird keeps me interested.
The hive wants everyone happy but they really didn’t look happy when Carol drugged that girl. They almost got aggressive but she was able to scare them back.
Poor hive girl, she’s in the hospital for a terrible injury and in terrible shape and then Carol comes along and drugs her.
The hive wants everyone happy but they really didn’t look happy when Carol drugged that girl. They almost got aggressive but she was able to scare them back.
Poor hive girl, she’s in the hospital for a terrible injury and in terrible shape and then Carol comes along and drugs her.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 4:59 pm to wareaglepete
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I’m enjoying the show. It’s going to be a long story and I’m enjoying finding stuff out each week. Usually don’t like slow burns, but it being original and weird keeps me interested.
The hive wants everyone happy but they really didn’t look happy when Carol drugged that girl. They almost got aggressive but she was able to scare them back.
Poor hive girl, she’s in the hospital for a terrible injury and in terrible shape and then Carol comes along and drugs her.
This has to be a valuable moment in the story, otherwise it's a wasted episode. Opiates are being shown to be a truth serum, and the Hive worked as hard as they could to prevent her from answering the questions. What if she can drug several of them, can the Hive fight off several of their members from spilling the beans? Maybe drug some of them in a way they won't die because they hadn't just been hand grenaded.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:02 pm to RLDSC FAN
Yes, this episode was a bit slow. I like how they connected it to the phone call from the plane, but I think they ever did the isolation of the guy in Paraguay. For a guy who seemed pretty resourceful he sure as hell didn’t think to stock up on any supplies.
For a brief second, I thought she was going to process this implication of humanity, making first contact and explore that with her new friends, but no. It’s still just Carol having a bad day/week or whatever and she’s trying to make everything “normal“. Doesn’t seem to be grasping the moment at all.
Even though she drugged her best friend, if that’s what we can call Pirate lady, how did she know that the effects wouldn’t be felt worldwide? Might’ve been helpful if she asked the doctor if pirate lady was on any other medication - maybe see if that would be a problem with what she was going to shoot her up with. Seemed like she gave her twice as much as she took herself.
For a brief second, I thought she was going to process this implication of humanity, making first contact and explore that with her new friends, but no. It’s still just Carol having a bad day/week or whatever and she’s trying to make everything “normal“. Doesn’t seem to be grasping the moment at all.
Even though she drugged her best friend, if that’s what we can call Pirate lady, how did she know that the effects wouldn’t be felt worldwide? Might’ve been helpful if she asked the doctor if pirate lady was on any other medication - maybe see if that would be a problem with what she was going to shoot her up with. Seemed like she gave her twice as much as she took herself.
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:12 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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how did she know that the effects wouldn’t be felt worldwide?
The "pharmacist" said that they had addicts in the hospital that needed the heroin for their detox, so it's fair to deduce that the whole hive isn't getting affected by giving pirate lady the drug.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:03 pm to THRILLHO
She had already made up her plan before he walked in on her. And it’s only been a week since everybody started getting infected , so they may not have been true addicts but still recovering.
Emotions seemed to stun them, but the effects of drugs don’t? Curious.
Emotions seemed to stun them, but the effects of drugs don’t? Curious.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:03 pm to THRILLHO
dbl
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:21 pm to THRILLHO
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The "pharmacist" said that they had addicts in the hospital that needed the heroin for their detox, so it's fair to deduce that the whole hive isn't getting affected by giving pirate lady the drug.
Don’t think she ended up using heroine. I think it was sodium Pentothal or something like it.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:32 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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The "pharmacist" said that they had addicts in the hospital that needed the heroin for their detox,
I think she used the heroin as an excuse to be in the pharmacy. They said they didn’t actually have any heroin there, but they could get some. They had alternatives, but she asked for the heroin and then ended up, tossing it down the toilet.
Anyone noticed that they were reluctant to answer her? When she was asking about the book and then talking to pirate lady, and even the pharmacist, he tried to talk her out of using heroin because of her history. I think the hive are starting to learn how to be less open and honest.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:59 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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I think she used the heroin as an excuse to be in the pharmacy. They said they didn’t actually have any heroin there, but they could get some. They had alternatives, but she asked for the heroin and then ended up, tossing it down the toilet.
Correct. Looking for heroin was her cover-story for being in there as well as for needing the needles.
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Anyone noticed that they were reluctant to answer her? When she was asking about the book and then talking to pirate lady, and even the pharmacist, he tried to talk her out of using heroin because of her history. I think the hive are starting to learn how to be less open and honest.
Indeed. When she edited her list, I thought she should have changed it to something like "Cannot lie, but will try to avoid the truth on certain things."
I was hoping she would have also asked Pirate Lady if she wanted her individuality back (tying back into the conversation about "we've been you, but you've never been us").
The Spanish guy has potential. He's even more hard-core anti-hive than Carol but due to her call he sees there is at least one other non-hive person out there. We don't yet know what level of interactions he's had with the hive (has he asked them questions or kept them at arm's length the entire time? - the note to customers makes me think the latter, which is going to be a big obstacle to overcome as he attempts to contact her) so his journey on this is likely to be very different than that of the others.
This episode was slow, but it was meant to be as Carol finally starts putting her grief behind her and beings approaching the situation in a more methodical manner.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:18 pm to Bard
Pretty good so far but I’m ready for things to get going
The scene of Carol writing the facts on the board was frustrating. It took her 3.5 episodes to establish what has been clear 1.5 episodes in.
I like the show, the premise is genius. My only problem so far is that through 4 episodes it hasn’t really done much except repeatedly enforce the premise.
Like I think we understand how the hive mind works at this point, we dont need another scene showing how they will basically do whatever they are asked.
Carol interrogating and drugging them was a step in the right direction
The scene of Carol writing the facts on the board was frustrating. It took her 3.5 episodes to establish what has been clear 1.5 episodes in.
I like the show, the premise is genius. My only problem so far is that through 4 episodes it hasn’t really done much except repeatedly enforce the premise.
Like I think we understand how the hive mind works at this point, we dont need another scene showing how they will basically do whatever they are asked.
Carol interrogating and drugging them was a step in the right direction
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:29 am to diddlydawg7
I agree, to a point. I think the difference is going to come down to binge-watching versus waiting a week between episodes.
Not being able to binge makes it feel like more time has passed in the show when it really hasn't. It's been about a week and a half. Dealing with the death of your partner is a heavy load by itself but dealing with it while also dealing with almost all of the rest of humanity turning into a hive mind is a whoooooole other level (especially when your default is to be a constantly angry bitch).
All that said, they either need to move the story along faster due to the low amount of episodes, or increase the amount of episodes to accommodate this slow build they seem to be trying to do.
Not being able to binge makes it feel like more time has passed in the show when it really hasn't. It's been about a week and a half. Dealing with the death of your partner is a heavy load by itself but dealing with it while also dealing with almost all of the rest of humanity turning into a hive mind is a whoooooole other level (especially when your default is to be a constantly angry bitch).
All that said, they either need to move the story along faster due to the low amount of episodes, or increase the amount of episodes to accommodate this slow build they seem to be trying to do.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:16 pm to Bard
I mean isn’t Gilligan kind of known for the slow burn. Breaking Bad certainly had its fast paced moments but in between was a lot of set up and aftermath. BCS was the definition of a slow burn. Why does everyone think it needs to be a fast paced story right out of the gate.
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 11/23/25 at 5:09 pm to arktiger28
it’s clear carol is not used to having to solve problems. She had her girlfriend/manager to do that for her and her success as a writer brought her money which as we all know is an excellent problem solver. She also does not appear to have any family relationships so has no talent for navigating human interaction.
so she’s flailing around simultaneously feeling sorry for herself and trying to figure out what to do to try and save herself. Money and fame brought her safety and isolation and now she just has neither
one thing I wondered about, when she was interrogating pirate lady the first time, everyone else was in on that conversation as well. There does not appear to be any instinct for self preservation in the hive but clearly the preservation of the hive itself is paramount. They should imprison her until they figure this out I’m not sure what’s taking so long for that
so she’s flailing around simultaneously feeling sorry for herself and trying to figure out what to do to try and save herself. Money and fame brought her safety and isolation and now she just has neither
one thing I wondered about, when she was interrogating pirate lady the first time, everyone else was in on that conversation as well. There does not appear to be any instinct for self preservation in the hive but clearly the preservation of the hive itself is paramount. They should imprison her until they figure this out I’m not sure what’s taking so long for that
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:32 pm to RLDSC FAN
Think I will check back in when the whole season is out. So far I’ve found it to be awful.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:37 pm to RLDSC FAN
I know the hive is all happy happy supposedly and focused on tasks, but besides the ones around the 13 has any of the rest changed clothes since the joining?
The biker outfit guy had to be foul.
The biker outfit guy had to be foul.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:38 pm to dallastigers
Didn’t they wash up pirate lady really well?
So they know that keeping things clean is beneficial to society & health.
So they know that keeping things clean is beneficial to society & health.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:56 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Didn’t they wash up pirate lady really well? So they know that keeping things clean is beneficial to society & health.
Don’t think them cleaning her up had anything to do with that. It was more of something they did for Carol.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:05 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Didn’t they wash up pirate lady really well?
So they know that keeping things clean is beneficial to society & health.
She went from brown to white, but I think cleaning her up was for Carol. They had that bathroom full of drones to get her ready and as Carol put “frickable” if that would make Carol happy.
I would think being clean to stay healthy would be important to them if we believe their story to Carol, so maybe they are just Steve Jobsing it and putting on same and hopefully clean clothes after cleaning up. I am sure the ones that get messed up or blood on them and so on change, but it’s just weird so many are wearing their occupation or hobby clothes like the biking outfit still a week later when they can choose from anything available and just be practical over style or tastes.
The only ones that really have to care about appearance and style are the ones attached to the 13. Like besides pirate lady I am sure the boy has to dress like his mom remembers, and the females have to dress in a way to make casanova mcboner happy.
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