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re: One James Bond movie in the last 11 years
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:15 pm to TigerMyth36
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:15 pm to TigerMyth36
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Big fan of his, I even loved Blade Runner, but the Chani situation in Dune is very suspect.
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They can downvote you all they want but you are correct.
He is absolutely correct. Instead of the loving devoted wife of Muad'dib, Chani was turned into a strong independent woman who pays her bills and don't need no man.
Villeneuve basically had Zendaya play Zendaya.
They changed the ending of the book so Chani can sulk and speed off on her sandworm instead of saying "I understand why you must marry Princess Irulan, but I know I am your true wife."
This post was edited on 4/6/26 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 4/6/26 at 3:15 pm to travelgamer
They aren't Bond Films anymore, they're Jason Bourne films.
They haven't felt like true Bond films since Brosnan left.
They haven't felt like true Bond films since Brosnan left.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 4:10 pm to Madking
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her character being changed and eating up so much of the story
part 1 had like 20 minutes of her staring off in the distance
part 2 she was insufferable. Its like her management team required she get so much screen time, and not technically cucked.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 4:24 pm to magildachunks
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They haven't felt like true Bond films since Brosnan left.
Huge Bond fan here and I do agree with this.
Honestly, Id rather see them stop making movies than come out with some stupid shite that you know is coming
Posted on 4/6/26 at 4:53 pm to YumYum Sauce
And she was all over the place. She only cares about the Fremen but then she attacks Fremen culture and religion. He actually fabricated a split in the Fremen so she could do this. She falls for Paul but never trusts him and tells him she loves him only if he does what she wants him to. Then he does what she asks, of course she has no idea what the consequences will be which he tries to warn her but since she’s the dom and treats him like an idiot she pays no attention to and ends up mad at him for doing it. It’s like they unintentionally wrote the worst modern female tropes into this character that’s a total betrayal of what that character is supposed to be. I hope DV finds a way to recover from this crap but it really hurt the second movie or what it potentially could have been.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 5:02 pm to Madking
I do think there is a Dune thread on the first page.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 5:03 pm to DoUrden
We’re talking about DV who is in charge of the new Bond
Posted on 4/6/26 at 5:04 pm to Madking
We are talking about James Bond movies or the lack there of, which has nothing to do with Dune.
All you are talking is about the show Dune, so post it in the Dune thread.
All you are talking is about the show Dune, so post it in the Dune thread.
This post was edited on 4/6/26 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 4/6/26 at 5:05 pm to DoUrden
Same director, did you even read the thread?
Posted on 4/6/26 at 5:07 pm to Madking
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Same director, did you even read the thread?
If you can't figure out the thread title I can't help you, in fact there probably isn't any hope for you.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 5:08 pm to DoUrden
So you didn’t read it you just jumped in to play speech police. Can I have your badge number please?
Posted on 4/6/26 at 5:09 pm to DoUrden
On that note, why has it taken so long the last 11 years to get their shite together if it's a money maker then why no produce movies, if they don't make money why not just say "we are done?"
Posted on 4/6/26 at 5:16 pm to TigerMyth36
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They can downvote you all they want but you are correct. The tears bullshite has me worried also her being angry with what Paul is doing. Big change from the book. I think they are going to go whole hog in the religion is evil. Messiahs are evil and I think it will completely deviate from Dune Messiah and Children of Dune. I don't know what the final script looks like but originally they said it would take parts from book 2 and 3.
The whole point of Dune was to be wary of messiahs.
It was its biggest failure because Paul is absolutely a hero and is someone the reader sympathizes and empathizes with.
It’s why the subsequent books were written, specifically, Messiah.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:00 am to DoUrden
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On that note, why has it taken so long the last 11 years to get their shite together if it's a money maker then why no produce movies, if they don't make money why not just say "we are done?"
Because Brocolli was in love with Craig and they didn’t have a clear vision for Bond. They skipped from new agent after Casino Royale/Quantum of Solace to old agent in Skyfall. Every movie Bond was quitting.
Casino Royale was arguably the best Bond movie ever but they misread why that movie was so good. It was great because it was a very compelling story and Bond was grounded in reality. The producers thought it meant every Bond movie should include him getting emotional and battling some inner demon. Broccoli overreacted to Austin Powers, Bourne, etc. and forgot the formula that made Bond great. Thus, pre-productions became shite shows because they couldn’t settle on a script.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 6:31 am
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:53 am to FairhopeTider
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The producers thought it meant every Bond movie should include him getting emotional and battling some inner demon. Broccoli overreacted to Austin Powers, Bourne, etc. and forgot the formula that made Bond great. Thus, pre-productions became shite shows because they couldn’t settle on a script.
This.
The producers and executives over at MGM became too cognizant and wary of what other studios were doing with their franchises and forgot why we all love Bond. You can be a hero while also having deep character flaws: which is what Bond has.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:04 am to magildachunks
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They haven't felt like true Bond films since Brosnan left.
I would say Brosnan was the beginning of me letting go of the franchise. He was too much of a pretty boy to me. It was like watching a more serious Derek Zoolander pretending to be James Bond. It was an overload of posing scenes. I never viewed Brosnan as being capable of portraying a dangerous man that could kick the arse of even an average man, much less think himself out of a dangerous situation.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 9:05 am
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:56 am to Willie Stroker
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I would say Brosnan was the beginning of me letting go of the franchise.
Me too, which seems crazy because I was so hyped for him to take the lead. Something about the delay and the Dalton movies ruined that chance.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:44 am to rebelrouser
Brosnan was fine in Goldeneye, his middle two were meh, and Die Another Day was so bad that it forced them to completely reboot the franchise.
Casino Royale is arguably the best Bond movie and set them up to have a great, but grounded, series. Then they just went completely haywire. Skyfall was good but it was nostalgia bait and it a little overrated but it to also set up a good series of follow up movies. Then they completely shite the bed with Spectre. Instead of letting that be the end of Craig, they doubled down with an even more bastardized movie in No Time To Die.
It’s been almost 30 years since we had a normal Bond movie where he gets an assignment and goes on a mission. There’s no going rogue. No personal connection. No internal conflict that has him questioning his place in the world. Just a regular Bond movie.
Casino Royale is arguably the best Bond movie and set them up to have a great, but grounded, series. Then they just went completely haywire. Skyfall was good but it was nostalgia bait and it a little overrated but it to also set up a good series of follow up movies. Then they completely shite the bed with Spectre. Instead of letting that be the end of Craig, they doubled down with an even more bastardized movie in No Time To Die.
It’s been almost 30 years since we had a normal Bond movie where he gets an assignment and goes on a mission. There’s no going rogue. No personal connection. No internal conflict that has him questioning his place in the world. Just a regular Bond movie.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 12:08 pm to rebelrouser
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Me too, which seems crazy because I was so hyped for him to take the lead. Something about the delay and the Dalton movies ruined that chance.
Dalton’s portrayal was an improvement, but the change to a character with less charisma was unexpected.
I like that Dalton portrayed the character as emotionally restrained but visibly human. He was professional, not flashy, and appeared uncomfortable with excessive glamour like many others. It seemed more realistic that an assassin would be more of a trained marksman, a careful planner that avoids unnecessary risks.
Because of his portrayal, I no longer want to see the character as an action hero. I want realism. The Dalton movies would have been better without the absurd cello case snow sled escape and the 18 wheeler finale. But that’s not on Dalton.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 12:09 pm to FairhopeTider
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It’s been almost 30 years since we had a normal Bond movie where he gets an assignment and goes on a mission. There’s no going rogue. No personal connection. No internal conflict that has him questioning his place in the world. Just a regular Bond movie.
Agree but he does have to stretch the rules a bit. I think this movie would kill because people are tired of the woke b.s. being shoved down their throats.
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