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re: Official Loki Episode 1 Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:11 pm to
I enjoyed the episode and the TVA definitely pulled from old Disney parks ride spiels and announcements. 100% throwback to those which was funny.

What I didn't really care for though I know it's unavoidable when talking about the 3 time keepers as being all powerful, is that Infinity stones, one of the most powerful things in existence, are just rendered completely useless.

It cheapens the 10 years worth of movies to me because at this point none of that really mattered, except to say it happened the way it was supposed to happen. I don't know, I thoroughly enjoyed the episode but if the time keepers are the end all be all in the universe, what villain is a real threat?
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:13 pm to
The time travel timeline frickery is never going to make sense, it's best to just turn off the part of your brain that wants to try to rationalize it.
Posted by Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:24 pm to
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Here is my question: In the sacred timeline, the avengers always go back in time to get the stones. This means they always lose 2012 Loki and the tesseract.

I know the TVA set a time reset charge to stamp out this branch, but this branch HAS to happen for Stark and Capt to go to the 70's and see his father/Peggy?




Introducing the sacred timeline opens up so many questions. So if they were to reset Loki, does that take away Cap living his life with Peggy?

Also, like another said, this kind of cheapens Thanos’ threat. Like almost none of it mattered, he was a powerless hamster at the end of the day.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:28 pm to
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The time travel timeline frickery is never going to make sense, it's best to just turn off the part of your brain that wants to try to rationalize it.


That's what I tell my girlfriend when we watch shows like this.

As someone who has watched or read a decent amount of sci-fi that includes time travel I just tell her it's best not to think about how it's all happening or any kind of "chicken or the egg" scenario. Just listen to whatever timeline "rules" the show/movie/book sets out for itself and just enjoy it. Otherwise you'll go cross eyed trying to figure it out or think about the repercussions.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:57 pm to
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Y'all are forgetting that Loki's armor includes horns.



This. The devil the girl saw was clearly Loki with his/her helmet.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 1:22 pm to
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Introducing the sacred timeline opens up so many questions. So if they were to reset Loki, does that take away Cap living his life with Peggy?


No. The judge explicitly said the Avengers were supposed to time travel when Loki tried to blame them while defending himself in the courtroom scene.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

The time travel timeline frickery is never going to make sense, it's best to just turn off the part of your brain that wants to try to rationalize it.



Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:43 pm to
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The devil the girl saw was clearly Loki with his/her helmet.


I made too much out of the stained glass depiction of the devil. I now see where the director is waving people off of making that connection.

As for Kang, I think everyone is making what appears to be an obvious connection.
Posted by SECbro
Member since Aug 2018
683 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:45 pm to
1.) Not sure the time keepers are even real or alive anymore. That is why only a few can see them. Kang is controlling things.

2.) Does he still have the time stone?

3.) Still curious about the devil part. Some internet folks think the image is a loki because of the blue tongue. (Frost giant).

This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 5:50 pm
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20753 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

Here is my question: In the sacred timeline, the avengers always go back in time to get the stones. This means they always lose 2012 Loki and the tesseract.

I know the TVA set a time reset charge to stamp out this branch, but this branch HAS to happen for Stark and Capt to go to the 70's and see his father/Peggy?


Well Strange said he saw millions of alternate realities of the battle. What if this Loki is from an iteration where they lost and the Loki they’re hunting is from Endgame and I just went cross eyed thinking about it
Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
4674 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:06 pm to
What makes everyone say it's a female Loki? Did I miss something really obvious? It just looked like a hooded figure to me, but I for sure could of missed it.
Posted by Breric
Member since Oct 2007
518 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:13 pm to
It's because it's a spoiler.
Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
4674 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:16 pm to
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It's because it's a spoiler.



Ok cool. I got stoned before watching and had no clue it was a female
Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
1208 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:44 pm to
100% Kang is in charge. And 100% Jonathan Majors shows up in the series.
Posted by SECbro
Member since Aug 2018
683 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:38 pm to
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What makes everyone say it's a female Loki?


Critics got the first 2 episodes in advance but it was already assumed by the actors signed. Plus it’s big in the comics.

In norse mythology he often takes the form off all sorts of things, old/young people, women, animals, etc. He even took the form of a female horse and gave birth to odin’s famous 8 legged horse. Eww…
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158762 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:09 pm to
fricking dip shits in here acting like they’re guessing…just the worst
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57457 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 8:38 am to
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That one episode was better than anything from Wandavision or Falcon & Winter Soldier.
idk why you are getting downvoted, but yes you are 100% right.
Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
1208 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 8:43 am to
Well Hiddleston and Wilson are better actors than anyone on the other two shows.

Also, anything cosmic and wacky is more fun and enjoyable.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57457 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 8:44 am to
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Plus Cap went back and put the Stones in their rightful places. Then again the Stones don’t matter apparently.
well they can see the future and all the different ways the future can go so they knew it would happen. And I think you are thinking of this the wrong way, the stones matter in they world..... but they dont for the puppet masters. You have to wrap your head around it like things affect different beings differently. We dont care about cats...but mice.....they are terrified. Like that, but in a more fake comic book way. haha.
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 8:45 am
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