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re: Official Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part II Reaction Thread

Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
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Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:52 pm to
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interesting

yea, the fact that she's on a constant acid trip is pretty interesting.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 7/16/11 at 11:07 pm to
Out the door right now to go see Harry Potter. I do not have any friends who want to see this as only my ex was into it. And I'm not going to take that skank. So I'm going to be the weird 30 year old in the back of the theater by himself..

I'm going to the crappiest theater in the Parish, so no crowds.

My first time ever going to a movie alone. feels weird..

Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/16/11 at 11:09 pm to
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My first time ever going to a movie alone. feels weird..



You just sit there blankly watching a film. Don't find it to be that weird.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 7/16/11 at 11:43 pm to
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Anyone else think that Harry should have ended up with Luna and not Ginny?


Um, no. They really flubbed Ginny up in the movies, so it's hard to see it sometimes other than her being a pretty face that Harry falls for, but Harry and her just match in the books. I loved Luna and loved that Harry stood up for her in OOTP, but that was nothing more than friendship. The scene in book 7 when they are at the Lovegood house, and Harry finds the pictures of all them with the word "Friends" lace all around......that was an actual tear jerking moment for me. I always wondered if Luna would end up with Neville when I read the book, but they never touched on it. I liked how they incorporated that in the movie.

The Prince's Tale was money. The scene with the resurrection stone made me pretty misty. But I agree with someone who posted earlier: how do they miss up these epic endings? I didn't mind how they added a lot to Harry and Voldemorts final duel, because honestly, it wasn't much of a duel in the book. But they should have at least brought everyone else back to surround them in the final moments. He just killed him.....which I'm not sure if they explained how exactly he was killed in this.....and then they are just sitting around in the great hall. Everyone is just chilling. Even with Hagrid, he pats Harry on the shoulder, and moves on. What in the world? Just like they screwed up the final fight in HBP, they just flubbed this one up badly.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:19 am to
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Um, no. They really flubbed Ginny up in the movies, so it's hard to see it sometimes other than her being a pretty face that Harry falls for, but Harry and her just match in the books. I loved Luna and loved that Harry stood up for her in OOTP, but that was nothing more than friendship. The scene in book 7 when they are at the Lovegood house, and Harry finds the pictures of all them with the word "Friends" lace all around......that was an actual tear jerking moment for me. I always wondered if Luna would end up with Neville when I read the book, but they never touched on it. I liked how they incorporated that in the movie.



Strongly disagree with this in the books. What in common did Ginny and Harry really have? I would actually say that out of all the main characters, Ginny was by far the most poorly written of the bunch. She never seemed to have much of a personality to where I really think I would have a difficult time describing her character that wouldn't have to do with her appearance or role in the story. Think if we had this conversation before HBP was released, you might be thinking slightly differently.
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 12:23 am
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:26 am to
There's no denying that Ginny gets shortchanged in the films, and her and Harry's relationship is fairly unconvincing, however, the films have been hinting towards their relationship since Chamber of Secrets.

And I'm sure Kloves nor Yates would have had the balls to pitch it to Rowling.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:30 am to
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There's no denying that Ginny gets shortchanged in the films, and her and Harry's relationship is fairly unconvincing, however, the films have been hinting towards their relationship since Chamber of Secrets.



I'd really say that while miscast in the films (really the only character I can think of in the series that was completely miscast, hell of an accomplishment), I don't think her and Harry's relationship is remotely convincing in the books and she was poorly written compared to all the other characters in the novels. I never really bought their relationship in either medium.
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 12:31 am
Posted by ligerbait
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 4:03 am to
I've only seen the movies. Thought the final one was pretty much summer blockbuster at it's finest.

My only real issue is with "the deathly hallows". At no point did the 3 objects come together to accomplish something significant. Did the books describe this differently?
Posted by swagsurfin7
Founder of the Alex Morgan Fan Club
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 4:44 am to
I haven't read the books yet, but I do know about the books... If I was a person that has only seen the movies, I would've wanted more backstory on Dumbledore... I also would've wanted more emphasis on the Hallows. Considering they were a big part of the movie.

Also, Ginny was a poorly written character. Her and Harry kissed once. He didnt even show that much love toward her.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 6:00 am to
The Deathly Hallows had a lot to do with Dumbledore's backstory, and why Aberforth hated him so much. I think he's only mentioned in the first movie, but there was another dark wizard before Voldermort, Grindewald, who was actually Dumbledores childhood friend, and they were both obsessed with finding and uniting the Hallows, to become the masters of death. After both of their parents were gone, Aberforth felt that Albus needed to stop the obsession and look after their little sister, Ariana, the girl in the painting. Grindewald got mad, a fight broke out, and somehow, Ariana got killed. Grindewald ran off, and later found the Elder Wand and used it to rise to power.

The reason that Dumbledore's hand was blackened was because he put on the ring, the resurrection stone, because for a foolish moment, he thought he would be able to bring Ariana back. When Harry, Ron, and Hermione find out about the Hallows, Hermione is skeptical beyond belief, but they acknowledge that the cape exists, and Harry knows that Voldermort is after a new wand after what happened in the escape to the Burrows, and after a while, Harry realizes that the stone is in the snitch Dumbledore left him. It becomes an obsession with Harry as well, as he starts to think getting the Hallows together will be his only chance to beat Voldermort. Hallows vs Horcruxes becomes a big battle with him.

His decision to talk to the goblin before Ollivander first at the shell cottage was Harry finally deciding that Horcuxes were more important. The whole time they are having the conversation with the goblin, Harry is watching Voldermort raid Dumbledore's tomb. A key part to the conversation with Ollivander was left out of the movie, when Harry asks him if it was necessary to kill the previous owner of the wand to gain it's allegiance, and he tells him no. "It has a bloody past, but that might just be because it's such a desirable object." That was huge, because that misunderstanding led Voldermort to believe that Snape was the master of the wand, and that he had to kill him. It never occurred to him that Draco was the master simply because he had disarmed Dumbledore.
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 11:44 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 9:59 am to
I thought that this was a very nice addition to the film that differs from the book. Plus Draco's reaction to the creepy uncle hug really sells it:


Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 10:02 am to
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It never occurred to him that Draco was the master simply because he had disarmed Dumbledore


I'm having a tough time remembering this...
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 10:08 am to
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I'm having a tough time remembering this...



In the novel in order to keep Harry from interfering, Dumbledore freezes Harry and it costs him his wand when Draco disarms him at that moment. In the film Draco beats Dumbledore to the chase by just out right disarming him, something that I don't think is likely to occur. Dumbledore did not intend for this so he was defeated in a duel by Draco Malfoy technically.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:20 am to
I agree about Ginny in the movies, but not about your characterization of her in the books. She's spunky and always game for anything. What does she have in common with Harry? She's one of the leaders of the DA (the organization Harry created) even after he leaves, is one of the few to take on the Department of Mysteries, she also has a connection with Voldermort's mind (the only other person alive who did), and she's an accomplished quidditch player (Harry's favorite activity). Oh, she's also related to his best friend. Seriously, what doesn't she have in common with Harry?

I'm a huge fan of Luna as well, but Ginny has a ton in common with Harry. Also, one of my favorite small moments of the final book is Ginny comforting the child who wants to go home at the Battle of Hogwarts, Harry is tempted to go to her. But it shows her good heart.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 11:31 am to
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I mean u have children doing everything. Where the he'll are all the powerful adults?


you need to read the books before you make stupid statements

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I feel like there should be more. LOTR was more fulfilling IMO.


your opinion is pretty worthless if you didn't take the time to read them.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:20 pm to
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She's spunky and always game for anything.

And thats where my description of her character really ends.

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She's one of the leaders of the DA (the organization Harry created) even after he leaves, is one of the few to take on the Department of Mysteries

Luna has this as well.

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she also has a connection with Voldermort's mind (the only other person alive who did)

This is a good point, but still its extremely specific and is only really brought up once in the novels.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:45 pm to
Never read the books, and probably never will, but this movie was fantastic.
Posted by EST
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:46 pm to
posted in both Harry potter threads for your enjoyment.

LINK
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 7/17/11 at 1:02 pm to
Damn, I was so tired, and the show was so late. I fell asleep at the end. I remember Voldermort fighting Harry. The part where they both go over that cliff. Next thing I knew I was waking up and I was the only person in the theater.

Posted by yungtigr
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2005
3820 posts
Posted on 7/17/11 at 5:44 pm to
The lack of a dumbledore back-story in the movie was disappointing, but I disagree with the people who feel it belonged in this installment. The Dumbledore story is important to the narrative primarily because it fuels Harry's disillusionment with his Horcrux task and pushes him towards obsession with the Hallows. The movies take away this key decision point for Harry following Malfoy manor and IMO is the biggest failing of the two films. But without that choice in the films the dumbledore back-story really doesn't help to move the story and would have served only to satisfy book readers.

On the plus side of the movies I thought that the sequence from Harry's arrival back at school through the sacking of Snape was outstanding. Harry's reveal to snape was altered from the books, but pretty awesome I thought, and then the Snape/McGonagall duel was the best of the film. I watched the movie as part of a double feature, and in that context I thought they really matched the excitement I felt reading when they arrive at school after the long exile.
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