re: Official Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part II Reaction Thread

Kind of like Dumbledore was all of the sudden gay? I guess she can say whatever

Perfect number. He was obsessed with stuff like that. Wanted to use historical magical items for the vessels. The fact that he made so many, ripped his soul so many times, was the reason his appearance became deformed.

In Half Blood Prince, when he is asking Slughorn about them, they were only talking about the one. When Riddle asks about if making 7 would make you even more immortal, Slughorn was appalled. "Isn't it bad enough to think about killing just one person, Tom?"

I decided to read the book before going see the last movie. I am glad I did, there was so much information in that book, a 6hr movie would have been the result. I wish that they would have included the Dumbledore history. But I am glad they didn't totally rush through the Prince's Tale. I have to admit I had a tough time keeping it together through it, while reading and especially seeing it rip snape apart. He was so cold and obscure during the movies, i just felt sorry for him. One thing I don't get is why they Called him the Half Blood Prince. Was that ever explained in the HBP book? I have only read DH so I dont't know. I also wish they would have stuck to the way the final battle scene went in the book. They whole thing in the book was basically HP saying "Come at me Bro" calling him Tom and telling him how much of a coward he was. I understand though that it wouldn't make for such a good movie fight. What I don't understand and maybe I just misinterpreted how Voldy died in the movie, but it almost looked as though the elder wand killed him. It didn't appear as though HP's spell actually hit him. Just pushed Voldy's curse back, and just before it engulfs him, he starts to break apart. I could be wrong though.

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One thing I don't get is why they Called him the Half Blood Prince. Was that ever explained in the HBP book?

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Snape called himself that during his time at school. Harry acquired a book during his potions class during HBP, the same book Snape used. Snape scribbled his own formulas and notes for potions and Harry used them which helped him excel in Slughorn's class. The book belonged to the "Half Blood Prince" = Snape.

eta: CE Tiger is correct. His mom was pure-blood, his dad was muggle.

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It didn't appear as though HP's spell actually hit him. Just pushed Voldy's curse back, and just before it engulfs him, he starts to break apart. I could be wrong though.

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This is correct. Once Nagini died, Voldemort's Kedavra curse repelled off Harry's Expelliarmus spell. Voldemort survived this the first time (when Harry was one year old; due to the Horcruxes), but was unable to survive the final duel.

No he's not, but none of the Death Eaters would never admit to that. Voldemort was a half blood as well.

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They whole thing in the book was basically HP saying "Come at me Bro" calling him Tom and telling him how much of a coward he was. I understand though that it wouldn't make for such a good movie fight.

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See, and I think that would make an awesome movie fight. It's not just that Harry wins the special effects war, it is really the verbal smackdown in front of the whole wizarding world that makes it epic.

You can have both action and dialogue. It's my only real complain with this movie.

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See, and I think that would make an awesome movie fight. It's not just that Harry wins the special effects war, it is really the verbal smackdown in front of the whole wizarding world that makes it epic.

You can have both action and dialogue. It's my only real complain with this movie.

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I totally agree, but I understand why they went in another direction. The sheep wouldn't have understood all of that. I was all pumped up and smiling while I read that part.

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Could Voldermort have made more Horicruxes? Is there a reason he had only 7?

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7 is the most powerful magical number

It doesn't have to be exactly like the book, but when you take out the entire fight scene and make Harry a coward in HBP, you screwed the pooch.

And making the death of Voldermort about as climatic as the Winnie the Pooh trailer.........yeah. Missed the mark pretty good. I don't mind certain changes. The chase scene through traffic in part 1 was pretty good. Harry flying all over Hogwarts fleeing from the dragon in Goblet was a lot better than the book account. But there are certain things you need to get right. Screw director's prerogative.

I'm not sure I have the interest to go back and read through the books to see what was different... but one thing from the movie that didn't really work for me was the Malfoy family as a group.

It seemed to me their characters rather bounced all over the place - in the spur of the moment certainly people can do irrational things but I think I've missed how their actions as a whole really make sense

Maybe the easiest demonstration of this is the mother (it was Draco's mother who falsely claimed HP was dead wasn't it?) in the last movie. What exactly is her motivation there? Certainly Volde will discover that HP lives in short order... but she and the rest of her family are apparently not changing sides to turn on him... so exactly how does this make sense? Betray Volde by lying about HP being dead - but make no attempt to take him down when the fighting starts? At that point it seems to me you are pretty high on V's list of people who will be killed

Draco was a problem too - making him a coward as well as a bully was plausible... but not convincingly done. I just feel like his character was botched. Shouldn't he have some steel in there somewhere? He has to know he's got little to lose at some point. And this is a guy who saw his dad go through a lot (as a deatheater). It seems probable that he might have even suffered some abuse from people (including his father) at times and that abuse could easily have given rise to cruelty, rage, and bullying - but probably not the soft character we saw in the films