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re: Official Avengers: Endgame SPOILERS/Discussion/Reviews Thread
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:14 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:14 pm to OMLandshark
Am I the only one that thought pairing Hawkeye and Widow to retrieve the stone on the most distant planet an odd choice? Plus maybe nebula should have told them about that whole sacrifice thing
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Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:15 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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Norton was the better choice.
Norton is a massive pain in the arse to work with and was far too demanding when it came to his having input on the script. He probably would deny it but I bet deep down he really regrets getting dumped by Marvel.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:19 pm to Bedhog
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His powers even before the infinity stones were unrivaled.
Before the stones he was no match whatsoever for post-Ragnarok Thor. Hell, Thor almost killed him after he obtained all 6 stones. Without the power stone he’s no match for Banner.
Thanos at his baseline is essentially just an intelligent, weaker Hulk.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:21 pm to GetCocky11
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Who gives a shite if there are holes?
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:22 pm to TheeRealCarolina
I mentioned early in this thread that the rat was the true savior of the universe by accidentally putting in motion a plan to save half of all life in the universe. Good thing the rat accidentally stepped on a button.. It amazes me how easy MCU fanboys can be pleased. There are so many flaws and pot holes that can be pointed out.. I saw it opening night with high expectations. After 21 movies spanning over 10 years we got a lazy arse montage down memory lane..
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:22 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Thanos at his baseline is essentially just an intelligent, weaker Hulk.
And smart professor hulk right now is a more souped up stronger and smarter version of Luke Cage.
They're going to have to find a way to bring back the power that Hulk's rage gives him and still keep Banner's smarts in control.
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:22 pm to xenythx
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Why didn't Antman just make the gauntlet small? Why didn't Dr. Strange just send the gauntlet through a portal?
Because it's fricking stupid storytelling for a superhero movie.
I think it's less this, and more that people have to disconnect themselves from the "What if?" Literally every movie in existence, and existence itself, is built off of choices. Of course if we could see how events play out we might do it differently. Maybe they talked about Ant-Man shrinking it off screen and the stones couldn't shrink.
You could take any movies and say "What if X just did Y?" Which would have ended the movie at that point (Literally every horror movie has this). What if Rick never wakes up in the walking dead? What happens to all of the characters? What if Jason's Mom got drunk and was killed one night? What if she hits hear head while chasing one of the campers?
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:26 pm to BilJ
quote:I think Nebula just wanted the job done. And how would you bring that up? Was she just going to ask the group "Hey, who want's to die?"
Plus maybe nebula should have told them about that whole sacrifice thing
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:27 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Without the power stone he’s no match for Banner.
Thanos at his baseline is essentially just an intelligent, weaker Hulk.
I disagree with this. Thanos was a well composed warrior. Hulk was just a god damn lunatic that just blindly hit things. Professor Hulk I think may have been a better match for Thanos than the Hulk.
He also (as confirmed by the directors) never used the Power Stone again Hulk. A better comparison for Thanos is a masterly trained Hulk.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:27 pm to Ry_garou
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I mentioned early in this thread that the rat was the true savior of the universe by accidentally putting in motion a plan to save half of all life in the universe. Good thing the rat accidentally stepped on a button.. It amazes me how easy MCU fanboys can be pleased. There are so many flaws and pot holes that can be pointed out..
Yes lets just ignore that Dr Strange said there were 14 billion outcomes and they only succeed in winning in just one. The rat freeing Scott would easily qualify as a one in a billion type thing so I'm not sure why anyone would think it's an actual flaw or plot hole.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:28 pm to Sentrius
Yeah, smash Hulk is almost unquestionably the most powerful life form in the universe at baseline if for no other reason than he’s essentially invincible. Apart from the infinity stones there is no natural means of killing him.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:29 pm to pvilleguru
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Thanos isn't the only one.
He was the only one trying to unite the infinity stones.
Captain Marvel is bad at her job
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:30 pm to OMLandshark
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I disagree with this. Thanos was a well composed warrior. Hulk was just a god damn lunatic that just blindly hit things. Professor Hulk I think may have been a better match for Thanos than the Hulk.
He also (as confirmed by the directors) never used the Power Stone again Hulk. A better comparison for Thanos is a masterly trained Hulk.
Even if this were the case, Thanos can be killed. Hulk, apart from the infinity stones, cannot be. Without the infinity stones Thanos could never truly defeat Hulk.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:31 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Even if this were the case, Thanos can be killed. Hulk, apart from the infinity stones, cannot be. Without the infinity stones Thanos could never truly defeat Hulk.
Thanos is more vulnerable than the Hulk, but I think he has his strength.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:33 pm to Ry_garou
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I mentioned early in this thread that the rat was the true savior of the universe by accidentally putting in motion a plan to save half of all life in the universe. Good thing the rat accidentally stepped on a button.. It amazes me how easy MCU fanboys can be pleased. There are so many flaws and pot holes that can be pointed out.. I saw it opening night with high expectations. After 21 movies spanning over 10 years we got a lazy arse montage down memory lane..
Again, this is, sometimes, how comics work.
First, Strange himself mentions 14 million realities. A guy like Strange, who KNEW how it would play out, is it that far out of left field to wonder if he was able to influence the rat?
Ant-Man was in the Quantum Realm for 5 years. Is it possible he understood how to get back somehow influencing the Rat, even though he didn't know what he was coming back to.
Loki. We are reminded in the 2012 scenes that he can change form.
Flerkens. It was a rat...who might have been getting away from a cat.
Or it could just be chance, chance can, and often does play a role in movies.
They made the rat touching the button obvious via the focus on him, probably for a reason that we just might not know now. "In next week's issue! Where did Loki go? Who is the rat? Will our heroes live happier lives?"
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:43 pm to Freauxzen
quote:Just think of the randomness that led to the success of the MCU.
Or it could just be chance, chance can, and often does play a role in movies.
1. Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau are both cast to play in Rudy.
2. A couple years later Favreau writes and stars (with Vaugn) in Swingers, which becomes a cult classic and shows that he is not only talented in front of the camera.
3. Favreau goes on to direct a few films, with his most notable success being Elf.
4. Favreau is slated to direct Iron Man, and despite the studio’s reluctance to cast RDJ, he helps convince them that he’s the best choice to play Stark.
5. Iron Man is a huge success and the MCU as we know it is born.
In my opinion, if Iron Man wasn’t the success that it was and RDJ wasn’t the star, we would have never gotten to this point. And I think a lot that can be credited Favreau, whose path to directing it was quite random itself.
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:45 pm to buckeye_vol
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Just think of the randomness that led to the success of the MCU.
1. Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau are both cast to play in Rudy.
2. A couple years later Favreau writes and stars (with Vaugn) in Swingers, which becomes a cult classic and shows that he is not only talented in front of the camera.
3. Favreau goes on to direct a few films, with his most notable success being Elf.
4. Favreau is slated to direct Iron Man, and despite the studio’s reluctance to cast RDJ, he helps convince them that he’s the best choice to play Stark.
5. Iron Man is a huge success and the MCU as we know it is born.
You aren't wrong.
Things happen the way they do because things happen the way they did.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:47 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Yeah, smash Hulk is almost unquestionably the most powerful life form in the universe at baseline if for no other reason than he’s essentially invincible.
God damn shame Hulk didn’t get round 2 against thanos
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:51 pm to Dr RC
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Norton is a massive pain in the arse to work with and was far too demanding when it came to his having input on the script. He probably would deny it but I bet deep down he really regrets getting dumped by Marvel.
Norton and Downey is cut from the same cloth. Both hell of an actors and both can bring believably and credibility to ANY role. However, they are also both trouble makers on set and like Downey who wrestle away creative control of Iron Man and made Marvel paid through the nose, Edward Norton wanted the same cloth.
HOWEVER, the big difference was Norton Hulk failed where as Downey Ironman made money. Thus DOwney had more clout to make his demands while Norton did not, so he abandoned an failed role and that is why HUlk is regulated to being background cast the way he has been.
Heck they even gave the Planet Hulk storyline to Thor.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 6:56 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Before the stones he was no match whatsoever for post-Ragnarok Thor. Hell, Thor almost killed him after he obtained all 6 stones.
Then how was he able to completely kick not only Thor’s arse but Cap and Iron Man at the same time?
Sure Thor was fat, but Cap wielding Mjolnir and having Iron Man there negates that. They severely nerfed Thor while also buffing up pre-stones Thanos significantly. He went ham on those 3
Cap should’ve pinned him down by putting Mjolnir on his chest, boom battle over.
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