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re: Official Avengers: Endgame SPOILERS/Discussion/Reviews Thread
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:07 pm to pvilleguru
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:07 pm to pvilleguru
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They took it back to 1970.
Which happened before 2012
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Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:09 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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He teleported to a different place in the same timeline
He teleported to a different place in the parallel timeline thus changing that timelines future
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:09 pm to Cs
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Using that logic a fork should have been created the moment Thanos destroyed the stones.
I don't see why destroying them would cause a fork. That's a stretch imo.
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The Ancient specifically discussed Bruce's reality and her own reality. Bruce then says these exact words, "we can return each of the stones to its own timeline". Word for word, this is what was said.
"To its own timeline". Meaning there are multiple timelines.
That would make sense within the theory I'm discussing. The stones leaving create a distinct fork - 3 of them - and must be returned to close those forks. That's multiple timelines, but timelines that are ultimately closed.
Pulling characters from 2014, however, doesn't change anything for them other than add them to the present.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:12 pm to Cs
quote:No, it wouldn't.
Using that logic a fork should have been created the moment Thanos destroyed the stones.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:13 pm to MF Doom
I will admit that Loki is the only issue in my theory, and the only way to rectify it is to assume he left that timeline with the stone, thus creating a splinter. That seems plausible given the power of an individual stone.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:15 pm to BOSCEAUX
Why would he be less caught off guard here? It’s not like he knew what happened on earth when Thor threw stormbreaker at him.
quote:ok even if it’s a different form of power are you saying thanos has more brute strength than the power stone? If so that is just ridiculous and defeats the purpose of getting the stones why does he need it if he’s more powerful than they are
Besides the power stone the others don’t really enhance what strength you have but give you different forms of power.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:19 pm to WicKed WayZ
So. In our current timeline where are all the stones. Strange should have the time stone since the ancient one ultimately gives it to him. Soul stone back on Vorimer. Space stone? Loki? Locked away by shield? Mind stone? Not with vision because he’s dead, back in Loki’s scepter, Shield?
Reality stone - no idea, the collector is dead and Asgard is gone. Once it was put back in Jane we know it got removed and given to the collector, where is it in 2023? Power Stone - still on Morad, Nova Core. Besides the Time and Soul stones to we actually know where the others are at in 2023?
Reality stone - no idea, the collector is dead and Asgard is gone. Once it was put back in Jane we know it got removed and given to the collector, where is it in 2023? Power Stone - still on Morad, Nova Core. Besides the Time and Soul stones to we actually know where the others are at in 2023?
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:21 pm to BOSCEAUX
quote:Thanos destroyed them.
So. In our current timeline where are all the stones.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:22 pm to Volvagia
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The Sorcerer Supreme states that every branch needs a soul stone to be sustained
The visualization provided required all stones to be present. One stone was removed and the darker timeline was generated.
But even ignoring that fact, I'm not sure why you're creating a separate branch for the 2012 Space Stone given that it was never removed from that reality.
This also starts to fall apart when you consider what happens with Cap at the end. The logic here is that distinct timelines can only formulate if a stone is removed - but Cap goes back and lives a full life with Peggy, which is distinctly different than his core MCU timeline. That's two very different timelines.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:22 pm to BOSCEAUX
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Besides the Time and Soul stones to we actually know where the others are at in 2023?
All destroyed by Thanos in 2018 a few weeks after the snap.
That would still be the current status of the stones since they were all returned to pre-2018.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:23 pm to Cs
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Cap goes back and lives a full life with Peggy, which is distinctly different than his core MCU timeline.
No it's not.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:23 pm to slackster
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I don't see why destroying them would cause a fork. That's a stretch imo.
Your argument is that absence of the stone(s) is what generates a new timeline, right? So using that logic, what happens when Thanos destroys the stones at the beginning of the film?
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:25 pm to Cs
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This also starts to fall apart when you consider what happens with Cap at the end. The logic here is that distinct timelines can only formulate if a stone is removed - but Cap goes back and lives a full life with Peggy, which is distinctly different than his core MCU timeline. That's two very different timelines.
Why can't he live that life with Peggy while the original version of him is doing his save the world thing in the same timeline?
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:26 pm to hg
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Nothing wrong with this after they find him after 5 years, but then it’s like okay get your shite together. You look ridiculous next to crying Cap in a special moment when Iron Man dies.
How exactly was he supposed to get rid of a beer gut 5 years in the making in the week or so of time the movie takes place?
Also, why is it a problem that he was fat but not a problem with Volstagg?
This post was edited on 4/28/19 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:26 pm to Cs
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But even ignoring that fact, I'm not sure why you're creating a separate branch for the 2012 Space Stone given that it was never removed from that reality.
How are different timelines and realities generated if not by things going a different path.
Now Loki doesn't get sent immediately to Asgardian prison, and additional effort to find him will take place that the characters otherwise wouldn't have done.
It is now highly likely he isn't a guest during the Dark Elf invasion, the consequences of which means he doesn't have the change to bond with his brother in shared grief, which is what begins to nudge him towards a lighter path.
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The logic here is that distinct timelines can only formulate if a stone is removed - but Cap goes back and lives a full life with Peggy, which is distinctly different than his core MCU timeline.
You are assuming that it wasn't him all along.
It is known that she is married, but never to whom. Sharon even comments about how secretive she was in her personal life.
It isn't impossible CA was always there.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:27 pm to Cs
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Your argument is that absence of the stone(s) is what generates a new timeline, right? So using that logic, what happens when Thanos destroys the stones at the beginning of the film?
Not the absence as much as the theft. Destroying them =/= removing them.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:28 pm to slackster
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Why can't he live that life with Peggy while the original version of him is doing his save the world thing?
Because it introduces paradoxes. At some point, Steve has to go back in time for the first time. Meaning he woke up from the ice with no "other" version of himself present. Peggy marries someone else. He goes back in time with no older version of himself sitting on the bench.
Then we have another sequence where he comes back, marries Peggy, lives a life with her while his younger self his sitting in the ice, wakes up, becomes an Avenger, then heads back in time while he sits on the bench knowing that he's going to go back in time to live a life with Peggy.
At some point, that "loop" has to be initiated. And the only way it can be initiated is with a distinctly different sequence of events.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:28 pm to Cs
quote:If you destroy all of the stones, then there's no stones remaining to have an alternate timeline. So when you destroy all of them at the same time, you just continue on the current timeline.
Your argument is that absence of the stone(s) is what generates a new timeline, right? So using that logic, what happens when Thanos destroys the stones at the beginning of the film?
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:29 pm to pvilleguru
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So. In our current timeline where are all the stones.
Thanos destroyed them.
They were brought into the future just like Gamora. The snap was reversed. 2014 Thanos is dead. They were brought back to where they were taken from but they existed in 2023.
Posted on 4/28/19 at 1:31 pm to DVNO
Why did Peggy Carter look the exact same in 1970 as she did in the 1940s?
And then the rest is this:
And then the rest is this:
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I Think this has to be one of the more disappointing movies in the MCU for the following reasons:
1. You don't need 3 hours to give me a 10 min "battle scene" at the end. We already saw it in Infinity Wars
2. Was the whole " Hey, we're gonna have Capt' Marvel run the ball up the gut while the rest of us women clear the path towards the endzone" really necessary? I get the whole women emporement movement as giving everyone a pat on the back (or arse), but just felt like too much social agenda/ pandering to the masses for me.
3. Which leads me to my next thing: So the new Captin America is gonna be Sam Wilson/Falcon (Anthony Mack). I don't care that he's black really, but how the hell is he supposed to be Capt American w/o all the super human juicing?
I just feel like the writiers/studio/hollywood are trying to make me eat this corn filled shite cake and tell me it's a chantilly. If you have ~ 3 hours to spare, it's worth a watch just for the effects. Other than that, prepare to be underwhelmed.
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