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re: Official Avengers: Endgame SPOILERS/Discussion/Reviews Thread

Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:33 am to
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:33 am to
The gauntlet can control them to an extent.
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:37 am to
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Hulkbuster gauntlet is not a real gauntlet. Even Thanos needed a specially made gauntlet to use the stones.


Even so at worst this a nitpick
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Tony didn’t die in the actual battle

He still died as a result of the battle
And who says we need to see GOT level massacres?

Tony died
Black Widow died
Vision stayed dead
Gamera stayed dead
Loki stayed dead

You seem to love to nitpick
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:38 am to
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You saying that there’s zero way he could’ve lifted the hammer is no less unfounded.


He tried to pick the fricking thing up and couldn’t. You’ve established this in your universe already. Any of these alternate theories is just fanboy masturbation.

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Thanos doesn’t have super powers. He’s just a big burly insanely skilled alien. He only had “powers” when he held the stones.


I can accept Thanos being of a powerful race who can weild the stones. He beat the shite out of the hulk without using a stone. A normal human being using them without a specially crafted gauntlet specifically for humans is a bridge too far for me.

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Messes don’t have to be bad if they carry weight.


I’ve seen all these movies too and this mess blunted the weight of what the finalie could have had. I didn’t really feel much of anything because I felt like I was in a transformers movie.

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but you’re doing the exact same thing by saying that Black Panther asking the gate to be opened is a “tactical purpose”, but trying to maneuver the gauntlet wasn’t. It was absolutely tactical, just with a hell of a lot more fighting going on around it.


It was tactical i guess it was just much less interesting and also kind of dumb of them to do.
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:40 am to
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Big Lebowski Thor may have been funny for a few scenes but not the whole damn movie
Actually, it was funny for the whole damn movie. We've seen pretty Thor for years and and years. It brought something new to the character for once. And it's actually accurate. A lot of people in the movie lost everything and they all handled it differently. Hawkeye went all vigilante. Thor turned into a depressed, fat, drunk dude who didn't give a shite about anything anymore. I thought it was a hilarious and genius handling of his character.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:40 am to
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Even so at worst this a nitpick


Asking for consistency in how we treat the maguffin is a nitpick?

The infinity stones have long been established as hyper powerful objects which can only be used by a select few hyper powerful beings or races. Now any a-hole human can use them with earth made tech?
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:41 am to
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Loki stayed dead


I thought he is in another timeline with the tesseract?
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:42 am to
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He tried to pick the fricking thing up and couldn’t

It did move when he tired though so clearly they were already hinting at it

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A normal human being using them without a specially crafted gauntlet specifically for humans is a bridge too far for me. 

Tony builds a damn time machine but building a gauntlet for the infinity stones when one already exists is too far?

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what the finalie could have had.

It was the payoff of building up 21 films. If you didn't like it that's on you not the film

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it was just much less interesting and also kind of dumb of them to do.

So please tell me what they should have done
Posted by BranchDawg
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:43 am to
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He tried to pick the fricking thing up and couldn’t.


We’ll just agree to disagree on that scene.

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A normal human being using them without a specially crafted gauntlet specifically for humans is a bridge too far for me.


Except...Tony did have a specially crafted gauntlet specifically built for humans. It’s what the stones were clearly in. Tony always prepares for worst-case scenario. When he built the gauntlet Thanos picked up, he equipped his own suit with the same tech. Why else would his hand have had the holes to hold the stones?

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Now any a-hole human can use them with earth made tech?


Because he’s Tony Motherfricking Stark. Him building a briefly working gauntlet falls well within suspension of disbelief established for that character IMO.

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I didn’t really feel much of anything because I felt like I was in a transformers movie.


Again, we’ll just have to agree to disagree. Glad I enjoyed the hell out of that scene and sorry you didn’t
This post was edited on 4/27/19 at 10:46 am
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:46 am to
It isn't all the insane to believe that Hulk could use it. Tony used it and died. Humans can use the stones but unlike Ronnin and Loki it kills them
Posted by TotesMcGotes
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:47 am to
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Theory is that he wasn't worthy yet because he knew Bucky killed Tony's parents and said nothing

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:48 am to
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Tony builds a damn time machine but building a gauntlet for the infinity stones when one already exists is too far?


Yes because at least they established the time travel stuff via the quantum realm and that sort of thing is up his alley. The stones are beyond human comprehension.

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If you didn't like it that's on you not the film


Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:49 am to
I had no problem with Hulk using the stones. Could have kept Thanos’s gauntlet and Bruce could have used that. Problem solved.
This post was edited on 4/27/19 at 11:01 am
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 10:57 am to
Also glad Loki is back in the universe!
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 11:00 am to
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So please tell me what they should have done


Well since anybody can use the thing Hawkeye could have done what Tony did without risking losing the stones back.
This post was edited on 4/27/19 at 1:32 pm
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 11:09 am to
Are you always such an obtuse knuckle dagger or is this new for you?
Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 11:11 am to
If dusted returned at same place where they were dusted what happened to those dusted while in airplanes, moving vehicles, buildings that may have collapsed afterwards, and so on?

My teenager was a little disappointed with it overall especially the time traveling and 5 year deal (& something about Thanos not being same or as good of a character). Not The Last Jedi kind of disappointment where movie was bad. I think the group that went thought Endgame was good, but it just didn’t live up to Infinity War or their expectations.
This post was edited on 4/27/19 at 1:23 pm
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 11:12 am to
I don’t think tony being able to develop something capable of harnessing a frick load of power is that surprising
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 11:23 am to
I’m just using the logic established by the previous films
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 11:32 am to
And you conveniently ignore the fact that Thor screamed “I knew it” when Cap finally was able to hold Mjølnir? He either knew that 1. Cap was worthy, 2. He could pick up it back in 2015 and chose not to or 3. Both.

Stop trying to act like you have the mental acumen for this son.
Posted by AustinDawg
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 11:32 am to
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I’m just using the logic established by the previous films


You are trying to be selective and ignoring the refutations of your assertions. It seems you've stopped discussing and now are now primarily trolling, while there are still plenty of interesting discussions to be had.

Back to discussions however, did we get an explanation as to what Hawkeye was doing early in the film? Instead of going to avengers HQ to see "what's up" he just went on a 5 year killing spree?
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