re: OFFICIAL - The Dark Knight Rises Discussion Thread - *SPOILERS*

3) Going overboard with comments on this board – Spending “X” number of pages trying to convince people whether a rope is at the top of a pit shows Nolan is lazy and using these types of items to downplay the movie, is going overboard (I know there are more example, this one just happened to pop into my head). As stated by others, nitpicking very minor things is fine. But then stating how it made the movie “good” but not as good as BB or TDK is grasping for straws. IMO, there are some that loved TDK and Ledger’s Joker, heard all the Hollywood talk about how TDKR may or will be the best of the trilogy, and walked into the theater to see TDKR with a little bit of a chip on their shoulders. Looking for errors or things that could be wrong, to use as ammo when the debates begin. Again, that’s my opinion. Again, this is about small problems that were either missed during viewing or is typical of all movies.
All in all, Nolan took on the task of taking an iconic character that has been around for over 70 years, has probably gone through more changes than any other super hero, is probably one of the deepest/multi-leveled super heroes, and making a trilogy of this character set in our real world. Many many have tried to do Batman justice on the big screen and on TV. I believe Nolan did the best so far and did a remarkable job on the trilogy.

Told you it was long. Kudos!

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Interesting. Obviously he bails out, but it would cool if they show you without you realizing it because the viewer expects him to be flying the bomb off, not ejected. Like hiding it in plain site.

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When it comes out on Blu Ray I will be ecstatic if that's the case.

So I didn't read all 70+ pages of this thread so this may have been answered. I can't remember, but did Fox survive the flood? I don't remember seeing him at the funeral service.

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So I didn't read all 70+ pages of this thread so this may have been answered. I can't remember, but did Fox survive the flood? I don't remember seeing him at the funeral service.

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did you leave early?

they show him at the funeral and then finding out that Bruce fixed the auto pilot.

Holy crap youre right. I completely forgot about that. I went full retard for a few minutes.

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I can't remember, but did Fox survive the flood?

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No

It was a great summer popcorn flick. IMAX was incredible

I said this before, but after seeing it a second time tonight, I feel like this film was better than The Dark Knight. Tom Hardy takes what is a very boring character for the most part and gives it such life. Ledger's performance is phenomenal, but madness is much easier to draw upon than brute force.

Ledger's Joker is more memorable because the Joker is one of the most beloved villains in the world, and Ledger gave a hell of a performance in it. Bane is not just a big lug that snaps necks and punches people in the face, though, in this film. Although this'll sound cliché, he is both the unstoppable force and the immovable object, the combination of the madness of the Joker and the power and skill of Batman. That is why I say Hardy did such a lovely job.

Drawing upon insanity isn't easy, but with more "meat", as you've said, there is much more you can draw from inside of you. Any moment that you've ever come close to losing it can be drawn upon. I'm not discrediting or saying Ledger's performance wasn't anything short of outstanding. It absolutely was, and that character is one of my favorites in all of cinema.

My point is that Hardy's little mannerisms, similar to Ledger's little tongue tic with the Joker, make the character deeper than what many others would have done. The way he walks is something I notice in almost every scene. If you look at it, in my opinion, it shows his confidence and power. It's got a lot of, for the lack of a better word, swagger to it. He seems invulnerable and unchallenged. You could have put any hack under that mask and got them to say warbled lines. When you do that, though, you're just creating an obstacle for another character, not a character itself. Hardy created a character in Bane. While the Joker in The Dark Knight was raw chaos personified, I felt Bane equally personified controlled power. He seemed very much like the anti-Joker. There was a calculated statement that needed to be made, and every move made played into that. He had the power and strength to take on anyone, but he'd much rather destroy people at a deeper level.

TL;DR Footnotes: I felt as though Tom Hardy's performance was absolutely great because he gave emotion, depth, and a persona to a character who would have normally just been a typical muscle.