re: Obtuse Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice TD review thread (SPOILERS p5+)

So, that movie wasn't nearly as awful as I thought it would be. It isn't a good movie but it is not a 30%.

And it needed much more Wonder Woman.

Same here. It just felt a lot smoother. But this movie could've been great with a better director.

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I liked it a lot more after watching it for the second time today.

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It improved immensely on second viewing for me. There is just so much to visually process it's hard to come away from it the first time satisfied. Much better flow on second viewing because I had an easier time discovering different beats.

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I liked it a lot more after watching it for the second time today.


It improved immensely on second viewing for me. There is just so much to visually process it's hard to come away from it the first time satisfied. Much better flow on second viewing because I had an easier time discovering different beats.

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I just saw it, and I definitely get the sense that it requires multiple viewings. There's a lot going on.

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That guy is a fricking joke as Barry Allen. Just atrocious. 

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Comic book lovers not liking the movie because it was different from the comic books amuse me.

It's like they think the comic book version of these characters and storys is the end all be all. Heaven forbid a director puts his own spin on a character or story.

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Vin Disel in that witch hunter movie which was horrible.

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I've never walked out of a movie, and I didn't think that movie was that bad. I rented that movie and enjoyed it for what it is worth.

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Comic book lovers not liking the movie because it was different from the comic books amuse me.

It's like they think the comic book version of these characters and storys is the end all be all. Heaven forbid a director puts his own spin on a character or story.

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I think what amuses me more is the desire to spin this decision by DC/WB and Snyder as people with a deep love and understanding of these characters being the problem, and not that they tossed out so much of what made them loved in the first place.

This level of angst by the core audience was about as predictable as a fricking sunrise given the reaction to MoS and it's spins on Superman. The studio clearly went into this with a "frick you if you don't like it" attitude, and now it's reaping what it sowed. And that's simply based on the decisions about how they reworked these core characters to be merely in name only versions of themselves and not really anything to do with the myriad of plots going on at one time, pacing issues, etc.

Take Deadpool for instance. Deadpool wasn't a run away success because he said frick a ton and you got to see Ryan Reynolds being pegged...it was because after having aborted their first attempt at bringing this character to life with Reynolds in the Wolverine movie (remember the studio taking huge piles of shite for that??) they decided to stay true to the character, believe in the source material they had and give fans what they expected...and boom.

This entire endeavor should have been the easiest job in the world...bringing to life some of the most well known and beloved comic characters in history with a metric shite-ton of source materials at a time when superhero movies are at their peak and in a time when CGI has caught up to the desires of filmmakers to produce what they want. All they needed to do was give movie goers the characters they could recognize and produce a movie that actually made sense.

Instead, they decided to be edgy to test just how hip the audience would be, and now that the predictable has happened are sent out to call out the audience for not being cool enough to get it... Nah...I get to be pissed that they whiffed this hard for no other reason than being too cute for their own good. As soon as it became apparent Marvel had opened the door for these movies, I got geeked up for DC to get theirs out because I'm a DC guy at heart. It's heartbreaking watching this happen with the franchise I've wanted to see for so long...

I agree with a lot of that. I want to know who ok'd allowing Batman to be a mass murderer. I don't mind the use of some gun-related tech, but he was viciously slaughtering people.

Those guys he drags behind his car definitely died. As did the ones who he blew up from the bat plane.

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Bob Kane and Bill Finger. Move on.

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Ok. I just thought it was strange.

Especially considering that no one focused on his killing and were only bothered by the fact that he branded some people.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the movie, but it was one of the many annoyances.

I was also really confused by the jump to future Batman and the dream.

I know the are alluding to Darkseid, but the segway into that just threw me for a loop.