re: Obtuse Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice TD review thread (SPOILERS p5+)

To each their own. I definitely did not think it was as bad as people were saying. I would watch it again.

I just feel it could've been better and most of my issues are nitpicky.

1. Batman just straight up killing people.
2. The time travel dream was dumb.
3. Doomsday looked idiotic.
4. Not enough WW.

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his was on the SHH boards. Not sure who this guy is but very good news for the film, if true.

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Gitesh Pandya
?@GiteshPandya
About $15M MON for #BatmanvSuperman - 1 notch above Furious7's $14M #EasterMonday last yr. $181M in 4days going to $215-220M in 1st 7days

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Nice. Exactly why shitty movies are made. The execs know people will pay no matter what because they are drawn in by one thing, name.

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This was on the SHH boards. Not sure who this guy is but very good news for the film, if true.

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Gitesh Pandya
?@GiteshPandya
About $15M MON for #BatmanvSuperman - 1 notch above Furious7's $14M #EasterMonday last yr. $181M in 4days going to $215-220M in 1st 7days.

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I'm sure there is some obscure graph that will show that this solid Monday box office is really the death-knell for Warner.

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Just tell a cohesive and entertaining story, that's where you failed.

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I get the feeling that this movie's intention was not to tell a multi-layered story. It told a very simple one and laid a foundation for what's to come. The movie wasn't really plot-driven in that sense and Hollywood isn't stupid. They made the movie that they set out to make. You guys can't keep pretending all things are equal with these films.

I wrote how I would fix the movie in its own thread, but here I'll discuss what was wrong (and right) with the movie itself.

Right:
-Batfleck was fricking awesome. While his Bruce Wayne wardrobe could have been better, I felt Afleck's performance was about as good as the script could allow.

-Gal Gadot was a good pick. I would have liked her to be a little more muscular (not a lot, just enough to not look like a French runway model).

-Cavill, like Afleck, was about as good as the script allowed.

-The CGI was pretty sweet.



Wrong:
Damned near everything else.

-Batman origin story.
--People that haven't even been born yet know Batman's fricking origin, there was no need to re-hash this shite (although Maggie from TWD as Martha Wayne was a nice cameo, it was completely unnecessary), especially for the pathetic pay-off of "Our mothers have the same name??? ERRMAHGERRRD you must be a good person too then!!"

-Dream sequences
--Either you are re-making Inception and the movie is a complete mind-frick or you are not. Making these dream-sequences where the audience doesn't know it's a dream until they reach this "what the frick is this bullshite? A dream?" epiphany isn't smart nor edgy. It takes the viewer out of the pacing, leaving them to wonder what they just saw and how it fit into everything while other, more important elements are playing out.

-That crappy Snyder tinting.
--Seriously... wtf? The tinting was tolerable in MoS only because it was new and different. It wasn't until someone converted a clip over to regular coloring that people realize how truly shitty that effect was. So Snyder does it again? The movie would have benefited more from regular tint and using the Snyderizing for the dream sequences (you know, to let the audience know it's a dream and God nor bats magically transported Bruce out of the cave).

-Doomsday
--I liked him better when he was the Hulk. The worst part was that he really didn't even need to be in the film at all.

-Destruction
--While the destruction in MoS was pretty big, Snyder must have been deep-throating Micheal Bay because damned near anytime one of the characters farted it caused an earth-shaking explosion that leveled buildings. Scene destruction should enhance the story, not BE the story. Snyder went so far beyond reason that it made the destruction in Avengers look like a warm cuddle.

-Batman's Fight Scenes
--It was barely a step above bad martial arts movies. I swear there were even a couple of times I saw combatants weight-shifting back and forth outside the fight while waving weapons just waiting for their one-on-one turn. The choreographer should have watched some Daredevil, or at least played one of the Batman: Arkham series of games.

-Superman's Waxing & Waning Strength
--When fighting Batman Superman would suddenly rally back as if nothing was wrong, then Batman would beat him down, then rinse and repeat. There was no organic ebb and flow to the fight.

-Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor
--Had Snyder never read up on Lex? Lex is cunning as well as a fricking genius, not some mad scientist/affable clown combo. Eisenberg still could have pulled it off if he had stuck with a more calm, calculating demeanor. As a footnote, DC fricked up by not casting him as The Riddler in a Batman movie instead.

-Jesse Part Deux
--Why does Lex go crazy? We all know what he means by "he is coming" is Darkseid, but most of us here have either read the comics, watched the old JL cartoons or both. The average movie-goer has no clue (and thus the parademons in the Superman Takes Over dream sequence are fricking useless).

-Lois & the Kryptonite Staff
--How the hell did she know they needed it to kill Doomsday? She didn't know shite about what was going on but miraculously she knows the ONE WEAPON IN THE UNIVERSE the heroes needed?

-Lack of Wonder Woman build-up
--This is one of the things they should have put more time into instead of the Batman origin story. How did she get into the party? Why didn't Lex recognize her (since he had ATM footage of her in his files)? Why was she at the party?

-The Flash
--He looked like the one that should be robbing the store. No matter how poorly Lex was cast, I think this casting of the Flash is worse (and he was only on the screen for about 2 seconds).

-Aquaman looked like he was holding his breath
--The shot itself was great, but they needed some CGI or something to make it look like he was breathing normally. While not as horrid as the other bad parts, it was enough to stick out in my memory.

-The reason Batman & Superman fight
--Really? Because Lex kidnapped your mom? And Clark isn't going to try harder to reason with Bruce?

-The reason Batman & Superman stop fighting
--Because their moms have the same name? Not just "you serious" but "are you fricking high, Clark?" Batman has been obsessing over taking Superman down for 2 years and just as he's about to win he stops because their moms have the same names?? That would be like he stops being Batman because he ran into a criminal whose parents were killed by cops.




tl;dr - this movie was Green Lantern'd. It suffered from too much of worthless stories and not enough of other stories as well as trying to cram too much into one movie. Wait for it to come out on Netflix.

‘Batman v Superman’ Tops ‘The Hunger Games’ For Best Monday March Box Office

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There’s no stopping to Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, as the movie has grabbed yet another box office record. The Zack Snyder-directed superhero movie brought in $15.05 million at the North American box office yesterday for the biggest Monday in March to date, topping The Hunger Games ($10.8M) and Furious 7 ($14.01M). As of right now, the movie has grossed $181.06 million domestically, meaning that its four-day gross falls just short of topping that of The Dark Knight‘s $182.9 million.

It’s clear that fans are enjoying the movie, otherwise we wouldn’t be seeing these kind of numbers. However, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is expected to suffer a 65% drop on its second weekend due to its negative critical response (currently 28 % on Rotten Tomatoes). Seeing as the movie has managed to exceed expectations so far, here’s hoping that the drop is going to be a lot lower than that.

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I took it as Superman basically acknowledging that he was about to die and wanting to ensure his mother was saved.

Sorry you don't love your mom