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“No Half Measures” Best scenes in Breaking Bad.

Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:04 am
Posted by Morpheus
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:04 am
Had a desire to watch a few episodes again of Breaking Bad and this particular scene with Mike telling a story about when he was a “Beat Cop” and never again taking half measures talking to Walt about Jessie is amazing. Mike had a lip quiver and all going and looked quite frightening at that moment and basically solidified his role moving forward with this IMO.
Amazing to watch again.
Posted by Corso
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 1:42 pm to
Best Mike scene..which is actually debatable being everything he does in that series is gold. But yeah, he nailed that.

So many great moments in that series.
Posted by Grievous Angel
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 2:37 pm to
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So many great moments in that series.


I've seen people argue that Better Call Saul is on par and I just don't see it. It's good TV and I've watched it but it just doesn't have the moments Breaking Bad did. Nor is it the cultural phenomenon BB was. Maybe that's by design.
Posted by jlovel7
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 2:45 pm to
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So many great moments in that series. I've seen people argue that Better Call Saul is on par and I just don't see it. It's good TV and I've watched it but it just doesn't have the moments Breaking Bad did. Nor is it the cultural phenomenon BB was. Maybe that's by design.


BCS is the initial simmer that that allows breaking bad to boil over.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 2:45 pm
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 2:51 pm to
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It's good TV and I've watched it but it just doesn't have the moments Breaking Bad did


thats an opinion. I generally share it up until season 4/5 of BCS then its par with average BB. season 6 is par with peak BB moments. (nacho OMG)

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Nor is it the cultural phenomenon BB was. Maybe that's by design.

I think this is more to do with cultural progression of binging, streaming and cord cutting. BB ended almost a decade ago and a lot has changed. it seems there is exponentially more content that is diluting everything.
Posted by LSUTyger76
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 2:55 pm to
The Half Measures scene is great, but this monologue from Better Call Saul blows it out the water. How Jonathan Banks didn't win an Emmy is beyond me.

I Broke My Boy
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 4:03 pm to
Well..thats because in BCS, we know who is "safe" for the most part in the ways we couldn't see with BB. The punches they threw in that show, the style they did it was new to audiences.

We were also following a psychopath who was in deep and was very capable of using his brilliancy to become a super villain. We realise he was never a good man, and given a death diagnosis to live under he showed who he truly was and had been repressing.

With Saul, we see a a guy who gets himself in deep. But at his core, I believe he is a good man who over time has to put up a front so he can't be hurt by those close to him. I dont think saul is a psychopath. IMO Whereas breaking bad centered on a man creating chaos in all the right ways, better call saul is more centered on a man trying to reduce chaos in all the wrong ways.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 4:11 pm to
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How Jonathan Banks didn't win an Emmy is beyond me.


When Mike randomly knocks on your door at night and wants to come in, sit on your couch and tell you a story..

You listen.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 4:27 pm to
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We were also following a psychopath who was in deep and was very capable of using his brilliancy to become a super villain. We realise he was never a good man, and given a death diagnosis to live under he showed who he truly was and had been repressing.



I dont think he was a true psycopath, he broke bad. he squandered his opportunity to leave a name for himself when he was left grey matter. this haunted him and made him stop pursuing chemistry innovation, resigned to fall back teaching basic chemistry. he became fixated on building the empire he was left out of when he learned his life nearing its end. he felt he had nothing to lose, until the end when he realized he squandered what he did have to build the empire that made him a public enemy. he basically lived long enough to become the enemy. if his treatment werent effective he wouldve died and left his family enough money without being a wanted criminal.


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But at his core, I believe he is a good man who over time has to put up a front so he can't be hurt by those close to him.


at his core jimmy is a con artist. we had backstory of his father being a good man and he was determined to not be taken advantage of. pretty much his whole life he lied stole and cheated. chuck was right to try to 'protect the world from jimmy, a chimp with a machine gun'. ironically his efforts further motivated jimmy to jump from cheating scumbags to scamming legit people like chuck, howard, and the legal system in general. saul is more of a building bad.
Posted by SEClint
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 4:47 pm to
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I dont think he was a true psycopath, he broke bad.
Walter White kill count:

Emilio Koyama 
Krazy-8 
Rival Dealers/Two of Gus' henchmen
Gustavo Fring (within months of meeting him)
Hector Salamanca
Mike Ehrmantraut
Lester Frankie
Matt Kenny
Jack Welker's entire crew
Lydia Rodarte-Quayle
Influenced the deaths of many others, and no telling how many meth overdoses/lives ruined for personal gain.

That's more than just Breaking Bad, thats a Psychopath. To everyone who knew him, no ones life got better. He was the embodiment of a cancer to life.
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pretty much his whole life he lied stole and cheated. chuck was right
except he wasn't, and Chuck was a POS who held him down and purposely hurt him. Which directly influenced his actions. There was no sense in denying him his mother's last words either.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 5:04 pm
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 5:19 pm to
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That's more than just Breaking Bad, thats a Psychopath. To everyone who knew him, no ones life got better. He was the embodiment of a cancer to life.


im not denying he was a villain, but he became one after he broke bad. psychopathy is a lifelong personality characteristic. those behaviors would have existed throughout his life, which they clearly only happened after the cancer diagnosis.

I think its better to view him in pre/post life prolonging treatment success. before that he broke bad, afterwards he accepted and embraced bad to build the empire he was haunted by missing out on.

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except he wasn't, and Chuck was a POS who held him down and purposely hurt him. Which directly influenced his actions. There was no sense in denying him his mother's last words either.


chuck was certainly right about jimmy. we do agree chuck was also a huge dick and that influenced jimmy. but jimmy was a lying con man way before chuck held him back from law, thats why he tried to hold him back. the chuck conflict just emboldened jimmy from scamming scumbags to tackling anything and everything in the legal world.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 6:26 pm to
It makes me sad I can't ever watch Breaking Bad for the first time again. Talking about the "Half Measures" episode I'll never forget the randomness and holy shite-ness of Walt out of nowhere plowing over the dealers Jesse was confronting.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 6:37 pm to
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The Half Measures scene is great, but this monologue from Better Call Saul blows it out the water. How Jonathan Banks didn't win an Emmy is beyond me.

I Broke My Boy


This.

This is probably the best monologue ever to be in a TV show in my opinion. It's gut wrenching and brilliant and I can't even imagine what it must have been like filming it.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 6:43 pm to
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I'll never forget the randomness and holy shite-ness of Walt out of nowhere plowing over the dealers Jesse was confronting.


....RUN

:shivers:

This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 6:44 pm
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27296 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 7:36 pm to
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When Mike randomly knocks on your door at night and wants to come in, sit on your couch and tell you a story..

You listen.


What about the time he had to kick Axel
Foley out of that country club in LA?
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12006 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:01 pm to
I think BCS was chosen to follow Jimmy/Saul as the main character is so it wouldn't have to be compared to breaking bad as much as it otherwise would have.

It's an unnecessary prequel that has turned out to be an amazing series, and for that I will always be so thankful. It was a huge risk and it could have really hurt the BB brand but it has only helped it so far.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 8:02 pm
Posted by NewBR
Member since Sep 2008
768 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:19 pm to
It’s totally a different world. AMC was trying to ride Mad Men and pushing Halt and Catch Fire. BB was an afterthought with the Dad from Malcolm in The Middle.

You can’t comAre BCS with BB while knowing what BB became.
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 10:43 pm to
Fantastic scene as well.
I think I just see the story and also see the couples faces in my mind better as the story is told by Mike which is why I like “No Half Measures” so much.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 10:45 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Member since Oct 2012
118943 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 8:09 am to
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So many great moments in that series.


I agree.

Just finished watching it for the first time. Fantastic series overall, and worth the praise it receives.

But I do have questions about the ending.

Jack let's Walt live, and leaves him a barrel of money. Would never happen in real life after wasting DEA officers.
He parks sideways even when told not to.
Walt rigs the machine gun, but none of the guys who look over his vehicle closely, think they need to look in the trunk.
Walt ultimately dies in a meth lab he never worked in. Wish somehow they would have let him drive to somewhere familiar, the house, the car wash or somewhere and die there.


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