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re: New Doomcock Lucasfilm rumors: Kathleen Kennedy is no longer operating as head of LF
Posted on 7/21/20 at 3:51 pm to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 7/21/20 at 3:51 pm to tiggerthetooth
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2. He gets full creative power (Disney Corp doesnt mettle)
quote:
4. Disney agrees to never ever mess with the George Lucas Star Wars movies
There's no way Disney agrees to this.
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 3:52 pm to tiggerthetooth
LINK
From the comments -
Hoovy
3 hours ago
Star Wars will return to a more civilized age...
Before the dark times...
Before Kennedy...
Hail DOOMCOCK!!
From the comments -
Hoovy
3 hours ago
Star Wars will return to a more civilized age...
Before the dark times...
Before Kennedy...
Hail DOOMCOCK!!
Posted on 7/21/20 at 4:44 pm to Rhames
Considering Star Wars is moving in to its High Republic era, I could see Lucas having some control over a Trilogy set in that time period.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:17 pm to Bonkers119
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Considering Star Wars is moving in to its High Republic era, I could see Lucas having some control over a Trilogy set in that time period.
George is 76, isn't he working on some experimental films?
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:14 pm to tiggerthetooth
So many posters dont get it. Disney is a licensing company first and foremost. Even when the economy is down they are able to make tons of money on products. The latest trilogies screwed the pooch for Disney in product sells. Because frankly, there is very little in the sequel trilogy that people want to bring home . . . . mainly because of how bad the stories were
Who is jumping up and down to but Palpatine merch? They killed Rey with that permanent association
Finn driving people to the stores?
Poe?
Rose?
The hot selling items were all created under Lucas' tenure . . . . light sabers, vader masks, the falcon, droids, storm troopers, blasters, X Wings, tie fighters. The new trilogy isnt selling much, because the sequels were either reboots or pure crap. Disney wants, no Disney craves Lucas' sappy approach to ignite merch sales, especially toys
The hottest Star Wars merch today is Baby Yoda, and he was introduced on a streaming service, not a Star Wars film. Sad, but true
Disney knows whats up. Kennedys gone, and Lucas will probably return
Who is jumping up and down to but Palpatine merch? They killed Rey with that permanent association
Finn driving people to the stores?
Poe?
Rose?
The hot selling items were all created under Lucas' tenure . . . . light sabers, vader masks, the falcon, droids, storm troopers, blasters, X Wings, tie fighters. The new trilogy isnt selling much, because the sequels were either reboots or pure crap. Disney wants, no Disney craves Lucas' sappy approach to ignite merch sales, especially toys
The hottest Star Wars merch today is Baby Yoda, and he was introduced on a streaming service, not a Star Wars film. Sad, but true
Disney knows whats up. Kennedys gone, and Lucas will probably return
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:22 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:If this happens, I will have SO MUCH respect for ole George.
-says Disney wants George Lucas to replace Kathleen Kennedy, says Disney investors have been working him for a few months
-they ask Lucas what it would take to bring him back to LF, and he asks for 4 non-negotiable conditions that needed to be met
1. He gets to make HIS sequel trilogy
2. He gets full creative power (Disney Corp doesnt mettle)
3. Kathleen Kennedy is gone
4. Disney agrees to never ever mess with the George Lucas Star Wars movies
He got to cash out for 4 BILLION, and then resume total control of the franchise in less than a decade? What would he have lost, control of ILM and total earning from films?
4 B seems like a fair tradeoff
Has Lucas ever done a movie around Angola? This sounds like a Burl Cain type of deal (remember the Angola warden, who retired, then resumed as warden, while keeping his full retirement check at the same time).
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:25 pm to RobbBobb
And also supposedly Galaxy's edge has been a disaster at KKs direction. The imagineers originally wanted to make it centered on the OT, but then KK came in and made them center everything around the Disney trilogy.
They even had the audacity to call Anakin's lightsaber "Reys lightsaber" on the display at the star wars section.
Let's just say Kathleen did a LOT of damage to the brand in her stint.
They even had the audacity to call Anakin's lightsaber "Reys lightsaber" on the display at the star wars section.
Let's just say Kathleen did a LOT of damage to the brand in her stint.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:28 pm to Rhames
quote:A billion dollars isn't what it once was, and Disney paid out the arse for that movie. I just read a report saying RoS had less net profit than Rogue One.
Making a billion dollars (rise of Skywalker) means the property is dead?
You lay the Disney Star Wars movies out, and TFA (first movie) was immensely profitable (2 bil gross, 780 mil net). Big dropoff to TLJ (1.3 bil, 417 mil), RoS (1 bil, 300 mil).
Same article says Solo (which suffered the wrath of the fans for TLJ) actually was a net loss of 77 mil.
LINK
So if you're tracking the series, it cost more to make each one, and you're getting less gross each time. And as they said, you actually had a movie lose money (not a core film, but a SW film nonetheless).
That shows
a) the IP was as golden as they hoped for, with a huge opening; and
b) it's going terribly wrong.
And as others have noted, there's no merchandise coming out of this. We're into models over here, my son loves making stuff. Star Wars used to be the shite for that, as much as WW2 stuff. Nothing of note from the current trilogy worth getting.
Toys, action figures? I remember the old OT stuff, that was incredibly big. I suppose it isn't as big a deal nowadays, but there's nothing out there at all from this.
Games? Remember how big Battlefront and BF2 was? KOTOR?
The one glimmer of hope Disney has is The Mandalorian. That is not the way they envisioned this going.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:39 pm to tiggerthetooth
Lucas was great for directing the overall story and narrative. The prequels are Oscar worthy cinema compared to this batch of crap Disney produced.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:18 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Doomcock
People here still believe what this dude spouts with his lame shtick?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 6:26 am to Parmen
well, he's at least half-right; Kennedy is going to be out.
Some movies might be all about creative freedom, but Disney didn't spend 4 billion for that. They want guaranteed, steady profits and loyal fans.
Some movies might be all about creative freedom, but Disney didn't spend 4 billion for that. They want guaranteed, steady profits and loyal fans.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 6:47 am to Scoob
I seriously doubt Lucas would even live long enough to complete another Star Wars trilogy.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 6:57 am to rich4pres
If true it goes against what George did when he sold it to Disney
In Bob Igers book that came out earlier this year, he goes in detail of Disney approaching Lucas and trying to get him to sell for years. He said Lucas finally agreed ONLY if Kennedy was head of creative and calling the shots.
Iger said they were all against it but ultimately gave in to get the deal done.
In Bob Igers book that came out earlier this year, he goes in detail of Disney approaching Lucas and trying to get him to sell for years. He said Lucas finally agreed ONLY if Kennedy was head of creative and calling the shots.
Iger said they were all against it but ultimately gave in to get the deal done.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 6:58 am
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:54 am to Scoob
I agree with your overall point but those Sith Trooper uniforms are fire.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:11 am to Feral
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I mean, I'm no fan of KK, but Lucas isn't the answer here.
Preach brother, preach.
They should use Lucas much like Filoni and Favreau used him during the production of the Mandalorian... an advisor that you run a few ideas past. Pay him to be a consultant and a public face for LF but let someone else run the show.
I'd lean towards Favreau getting to be head of Lucasfilm but does he want the job of over seeing the entire studio or is he just desperate to make sure that Kennedy isn't the one in charge?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:16 am to Arksulli
After watching the making of The Mandalorian, Favreau and Waititi are ultimate fan boys and get it.
I say give them the keys to the car and it’ll be in good hands for the next 20 years.
I say give them the keys to the car and it’ll be in good hands for the next 20 years.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:27 am to Dr RC
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So many here kick and scream about how studios should not interfere with directors but then turn around and say studios should interfere with directors.
What? When you build a universe and have movies that are made about that universe, there is someone who manages that. Feige had this responsibility with Marvel. And yes, he pointed writers/directers in the right direction.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:44 am to kingbob
Lucas has vision.
He is just a shitty scriptwriter and shouldn’t be given sole creative authority.
He is just a shitty scriptwriter and shouldn’t be given sole creative authority.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:30 am to tiggerthetooth
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And also supposedly Galaxy's edge has been a disaster at KKs direction. The imagineers originally wanted to make it centered on the OT, but then KK came in and made them center everything around the Disney trilogy.
This is a thorn in the side of Disney. Purchasing Star Wars was really about merchandising and branding. Make a Star Wars land and get asses through the gate. Sell a bunch of Star Wars merch while the guests are there.
No one is interested in the new trilogy, and from what I understand - pre covid - park visitation was well below projections.
No one is excited about the new trilogy, and certainly isn't spending that kind of money and time to visit a land dedicated to the new trilogy.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:28 pm to boxcarbarney
Park director got canned for the Galaxy’s Edge release IIRC
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