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re: Most overrated TV Shows Of All Time
Posted on 3/1/10 at 5:48 pm to Methuselah
Posted on 3/1/10 at 5:48 pm to Methuselah
Lost is like those old Batman shows from the 70s. They build up toward the end and BOOM they change things just a bit and you keep watching until something else big happens and BOOM they do it again. All they do is insult the viewers and they just watch that entire mind numbing madness.
IF ANYONE believes that lost will end with all the main plot points answers you are sadly mistaken because once the lost movie comes they will now take your money instead of your time.
You know what they say about a fool and his money right?
IF ANYONE believes that lost will end with all the main plot points answers you are sadly mistaken because once the lost movie comes they will now take your money instead of your time.
You know what they say about a fool and his money right?
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Posted on 3/1/10 at 6:27 pm to Vood
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Lost is like those old Batman shows from the 70s. They build up toward the end and BOOM they change things just a bit and you keep watching until something else big happens and BOOM they do it again. All they do is insult the viewers and they just watch that entire mind numbing madness.
They kinda have to change things up quite a bit in order for the show to continue. The show would suck if they were still setting up campfires and searching for more hatches. The show can't be constant or else no one would watch it and they would grow bored with it. And I'd hardly say they are insulting the viewer by doing these things. They may be insulting viewers who dislike science fiction, but nothing more.
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IF ANYONE believes that lost will end with all the main plot points answers you are sadly mistaken because once the lost movie comes they will now take your money instead of your time.
To be honest I really don't want all of the mysteries answered. Questions like "What is the Island" and "Where do the Numbers get their powers" can really only have anti-climatic answers that would be going into midiclorian territory. To take away of the mystery from the show at the end would be taking away from alot of the shows greatness.
And there won't be a LOST movie. The writers are hell bent against there being a movie and said it would be cheap to make people pay an extra 10 bucks just to see what happens in the end. If there is a LOST movie or something like "LOST: The Next Generation", Damon and Carlton will have nothing to do with it. They said the series will have a definitive end and that it will be almost impossible to continue the series afterwards, at least from the same characters.
Posted on 3/1/10 at 7:23 pm to theunknownknight
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Technically two different shows, but who am I kidding? They were virtually the same show and they both were overrated.
My bad. Didn't know there was a Gary Shandling Show.
Posted on 3/1/10 at 10:54 pm to WestCoastTigah
They all might be overrated but Entourage is still a damn good show. 
Posted on 3/1/10 at 11:53 pm to Yeahbuddy
Most of the chick shows are generally pretty terrible. My list:
1) Friends
2) Buffy the Vampire Slayer
3) Sex and the City
4) Grey's Anatomy
5) Frasier
1) Friends
2) Buffy the Vampire Slayer
3) Sex and the City
4) Grey's Anatomy
5) Frasier
Posted on 3/2/10 at 12:03 am to WestCoastTigah
there are a bunch of good answers in this thread, but Friends has to be numero uno when it comes to overrated television
Posted on 3/2/10 at 12:23 am to Feed Me Popeyes
OK, sort of a hijack, but someone was talking earlier about how shows steal story/plot lines from earlier shows. In that light, Everybody Loves Raymond stole so many story lines from All in the Family it's not even funny.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 12:30 am to HeadyMurphey
I used to love the office...now I just like it...soon I probably will hate it.
It's become damn near unwatchable this season.
It's become damn near unwatchable this season.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 7:08 am to OMLandshark
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Questions like "What is the Island" and "Where do the Numbers get their powers" can really only have anti-climatic answers that would be going into midiclorian territory.
naw
midocloriants completely changed what an established prop (the force was
answering the questions of the island is the entire point of the show. i bailed when it was obvious the writers had no idea how they were going to wrap it up, and when they just started getting silly
most people i know are going to be PISSED if the questions are answered in a retarded way
Posted on 3/2/10 at 7:11 am to OMLandshark
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The show would suck if they were still setting up campfires and searching for more hatches
if they had never introduced a lot of the hatches and completely botched the others, lost had super potential
i was so geeked to see a grownup version of lord of the flies with a fantasy (not sci fi) twist
when they tried to make it sci fi and added way too many characters other than the original people, it just went down
THEN the writers started really pumping this mythology and starting the classic "we have had the plan/ending ready since we started," when it's obviously they were lying and tryin to just hold on by the seat of their pants in season 3
that's when it jumped the shark
Posted on 3/2/10 at 8:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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answering the questions of the island is the entire point of the show. i bailed when it was obvious the writers had no idea how they were going to wrap it up, and when they just started getting silly
Actually they are very much the same. If the Island is fully scientifically explainable like the force is, then it will take away greatly from the mysticism. And if the answers are retarded (like the Island's probably would), then just don't answer it.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 8:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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if they had never introduced a lot of the hatches and completely botched the others, lost had super potential
i was so geeked to see a grownup version of lord of the flies with a fantasy (not sci fi) twist
when they tried to make it sci fi and added way too many characters other than the original people, it just went down
THEN the writers started really pumping this mythology and starting the classic "we have had the plan/ending ready since we started," when it's obviously they were lying and tryin to just hold on by the seat of their pants in season 3
that's when it jumped the shark
LOST has turned jumping the shark into an art form. LOST jumped the shark when the Monster killed the Pilot and a Polar Bear showed up on the Island, and they've been doing it ever since. People bitch about it turning sci-fi, but it has been very much sci fi all along.
And since you are mentioning Season 3, I'm going to take a wild guess that you didn't make it to the end of that season, because aside from the first few episodes, Season 3 is a very strong season of LOST.
And LOST being "Lord of the Flies" for 6 straight seasons would not remotely be an enticing show, since there's only so far they could take that concept. I mean you got gathering firewood, finding water, fighting for resources and leadership, and then there's a civil war. LOST actually did do all these things, and people would get bored with them doing just about the same thing in every episode like they did in Season 1. Lord of the Flies would not be good for a long running series, but it would be great for an HBO mini-series.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 8:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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THEN the writers started really pumping this mythology and starting the classic "we have had the plan/ending ready since we started," when it's obviously they were lying and tryin to just hold on by the seat of their pants in season 3
Are you currently watching the show? Because based on what we know now in Season 6, every major theme was actually discussed or blatantly given away in the first 6 episodes of the series.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 9:24 am to theunknownknight
Just because the writers retroactively tacked on a bunch of explanations for stuff does not mean they always had a plan. It just means they are calling back to their earlier writing.
I'm with SFP. I was fine with some sci-fi elements, but it has just gotten absurd and gotten away from the real drama of the show: the Lord of the Flies-like drama.
Loved the first three season, but it has steadily been declining in quality as it has become obsessed with its own mythology in the last three.
I'm with SFP. I was fine with some sci-fi elements, but it has just gotten absurd and gotten away from the real drama of the show: the Lord of the Flies-like drama.
Loved the first three season, but it has steadily been declining in quality as it has become obsessed with its own mythology in the last three.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 9:54 am to WestCoastTigah
Two and a Half Men
I love Lucy
The Honeymooners
Keeping up with the Kardashians
Next Top Model
The Bachelor/ette
I love Lucy
The Honeymooners
Keeping up with the Kardashians
Next Top Model
The Bachelor/ette
Posted on 3/2/10 at 10:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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THEN the writers started really pumping this mythology and starting the classic "we have had the plan/ending ready since we started," when it's obviously they were lying and tryin to just hold on by the seat of their pants in season 3
The first season Lost was on, I remember reading a story about ABC calling in JJ abrams and some writers and asked them to come up with a new show kind of like a scripted survivor. That was in 2000, Lost didn't start to air until 2004. I think they had plenty of time to come up with a general beginning, middle, and end. That's what I remember thinking when i read the article on the show during the first season.
Posted on 3/2/10 at 10:58 am to colorchangintiger
Does every thread eventually turn into a Lost thread?
Posted on 3/2/10 at 11:37 am to Baloo
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as it has become obsessed with its own mythology in the last three.
this is what i figured would happen in the rush to answer all the curveballs they threw out there
they just added too much and changed the show at least twice (pre-season 3, during season 3, after season 3)
Posted on 3/2/10 at 11:44 am to OMLandshark
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And since you are mentioning Season 3, I'm going to take a wild guess that you didn't make it to the end of that season, because aside from the first few episodes, Season 3 is a very strong season of LOST.
i saw it all of season 3 and about half of 4 i think. i definitely saw all of 3 and i forget where in 4 i was like, eh
i saw hurley seeing the charlie ghosts, kate and jack raising erin, and other things...so i know i saw some of 4
Posted on 3/2/10 at 11:49 am to colorchangintiger
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I think they had plenty of time to come up with a general beginning, middle, and end.
i think initially it was supposed to be a purgatory
however, they made it so obvious and everyone guessed that theme, AND there a wave of super popularity. this made them scramble to develop a new arc for the show and it took a season or 2 to straighten it out
that's why there was a transition from fantasy to sci fi, and that's why there are so many questions to answer
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