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re: ‘Moana’ live action remake tracking to be a gigantic bomb for Disney
Posted on 6/24/26 at 11:51 am to Kinderman
Posted on 6/24/26 at 11:51 am to Kinderman
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Maybe don’t remake 10-year-old movies?
How to Train Your Dragon didn't get the memo.... blew it out of the water. Think it did 250m/650m and they are doing the second one for a release next year.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 11:52 am to imjustafatkid
I don’t understand remaking an animated film and using 95% CGI.
It’s basically just another animated film.
I mean I know why but artistically it’s just funny.
It’s basically just another animated film.
I mean I know why but artistically it’s just funny.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 11:52 am to Kinderman
rock looks like he's in an snl skit. this was totally unnecessary.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 12:05 pm to Kinderman
Do people really buy their tickets to see a movie weeks/months in advance? I’m sure we will take the kids to see it but we won’t buy tickets until the day of.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 12:21 pm to Kinderman
I thought it was really weird to do a remake of this and frozen. They aren't that old, especially Moana and you have to use so much CGI for the scenes, it's kind of like whats the point. It's all CGI and animated anyway, then you plop some actors front of a green screen. Seems stupid.
Now Snow White or Cinderella translate well to a live action because it doesn't need the CGI like the others do.
Now Snow White or Cinderella translate well to a live action because it doesn't need the CGI like the others do.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 12:29 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I liked the Cinderella live action that they did.
Cinderella was easily Disney’s best live action adaptation. They’ve gotten steadily worse since then.
Cruella and the two Maleficent movies weren’t bad, but they were basically reimaginings of the original animated films. They took the villains and made them the heroes.
I didn’t see the Lilo & Stitch remake. Apparently live action retreads of Tangled and Hercules are up next.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 12:41 pm to JetsetNuggs
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"How about we make the same exact movie but remove all the parts that make it good?"
Genuinely asking cause I haven't kept up with this, but what are they removing from the original?
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:00 pm to Purple Spoon
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I don’t understand remaking an animated film and using 95% CGI.
It worked spectacularly for The Jungle Book (2016) and they have been chasing that high ever since.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:02 pm to Kinderman
They thought they needed The Rock to make people see it, and now what's his name is a weirdly old dude. And Moana isn't a kid. She's a teenager. The whole thing is just kind of off-putting on its face.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:07 pm to Purple Spoon
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I don’t understand remaking an animated film and using 95% CGI.
It’s basically just another animated film.
I mean I know why but artistically it’s just funny.
If they made money, it would make sense to me. Have these been making money? After the disaster that was Emma Watson's Belle ruining the entirety of the Beauty & The Beast remake, I stopped going to see them.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:13 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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Do people really buy their tickets to see a movie weeks/months in advance?
I bought the tickets to see Toy Story 5 with my grandkids a few days ahead of time to be sure I had good seats but it wound up not being necessary because there wasn't very many people there. Which surprised me some because it was the opening weekend
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:17 pm to CatfishJohn
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They don't ever intend to lose money, but breaking even and getting other revenue jump started is a good outcome for Disney.
It might be an acceptable outcome for Disney but it's not remotely close to what they were aiming for. Acceptable <> good.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:17 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
Yet they refuse to give the people what we really want, the Atlantis live action remake
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:56 pm to imjustafatkid
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After the disaster that was Emma Watson's Belle ruining the entirety of the Beauty & The Beast remake
Funny. I thought that one was good. But that was old school 2d animation so the reimagined CGI was a huge visual difference.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:59 pm to Broski
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I just don't understand the concept of a live action remake, especially when it comes to children's fantasy movies.
It's never going to have that same magic and life that animation can provide.
It's just laziness, and you are right it can't provide the magic of animation
Posted on 6/24/26 at 2:03 pm to Purple Spoon
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Funny. I thought that one was good.
I agree that it was a good adaptation overall.
Everything except for Emma Watson was perfect. She just can't sing. It was very obvious they were cutting songs off too soon because she couldn't hold out notes she should have been able to hold out.
It's pretty telling that her career went pretty cold after that release.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 2:08 pm to Flats
Estimates are Disney generates $1 billion annually from Moana merchandise since the franchise launch.
That is more than they've made in theaters, even with the last two successful box office films earning 690m and 1b, respectively.
It's a money printing brand. Even if this movie loses money in the box office, they're going to make a shite load.
That is more than they've made in theaters, even with the last two successful box office films earning 690m and 1b, respectively.
It's a money printing brand. Even if this movie loses money in the box office, they're going to make a shite load.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 2:58 pm to CatfishJohn
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Even if this movie loses money in the box office, they're going to make a shite load.
I'll take your word for it, but nobody involved with this would describe a movie that loses money as a "good" outcome. "Hey guys, we don't want to make money on merchandising AND at the box office so make it suck a little."
Posted on 6/24/26 at 3:03 pm to Flats
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I'll take your word for it, but nobody involved with this would describe a movie that loses money as a "good" outcome. "Hey guys, we don't want to make money on merchandising AND at the box office so make it suck a little."
I said this:
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They don't ever intend to lose money, but breaking even and getting other revenue jump started is a good outcome for Disney.
Breaking even on the film and making $1 billion dollars on merchandise is a good outcome
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These aren't intended to be "loss leaders", but the concept is sort of the same. You offer something at your business that you may not make money on but it drives traffic and popularity, thus additional revenue.
They don't intend to lose money like a loss leader concept, but they know the real money isn't in huge box office profits. It's in the branding/merchandise/streaming/etc.
Now this is a sliding scale and isn't applicable for all movies or studios, obviously, but Moana is a cash cow outside of the movie theater and Disney is just going to bleed it for all it's worth.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 6/24/26 at 4:05 pm to CatfishJohn
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Breaking even on the film and making $1 billion dollars on merchandise is a good outcom
In your previous post you said they make about a $1 billion annually from Moana merchandising. Ok, I don't know if true or not but if you break even on a movie, or potentially lose money, and still make a $1 billion in merchandising, then why make the movie?
Also, for them to make money in streaming would require new subscribers and I don't think people is going to subscribe to see Moana.
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