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re: Marvel is about to go down and so are Disney’s profits
Posted on 8/22/19 at 7:52 am to EGCROSS
Posted on 8/22/19 at 7:52 am to EGCROSS
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The new phase looks incredibly weak
Not really, new Dr. Strange and Thor, along with introducing new characters with the eternals. It looks to be in decent shape. This phase was always going to be hard since they lost their two most iconic characters.
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more infused they become with the SJW movement the less their movies will be enjoyable
Not sure what you mean by this. There has been hardly any "SJW" themes in their movies. Having more characters on the screen besides white males doesn't make it a propaganda movie. They are appealing to a very diverse audience and are using characters to reflect that.
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however they will slowly make less and less and be looked at as a complete mess.
Marvel just pulled off one of the most impressive feats in film history. They put together a 10 year story arc with dozens of characters and paid it off beautifully at the end. Given their track record I don't think you will see anything they do be a complete mess. In regards to money, eventually there will be diminishing returns with comic book movies in general but their last one is the highest grossing movie of all time. I think we have a ways to go before they are worried about money.
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 7:54 am to EGCROSS
You sound like one of them political idiots that was claiming the NFL is done.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 8:16 am to EGCROSS
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The new phase looks incredibly weak and the more infused they become with the SJW movement the less their movies will be enjoyable. Mark my words, yes the next few movies will all make plenty of money however they will slowly make less and less and be looked at as a complete mess. They will continue their slide into Disney Star Wars territory of being hated until they’re forced to do a regime change.
Eh, even the best of us falter for whatever reason, in whatever game/industry/product they are playing in. If the movies turn out to be BAD movies, then yeah they might fail.
But they won't fail because the Phase is weak (it isn't), or because of "SJW" content, or because the universe is "a mess." The only reason they will fail is if the movies themselves are bad.
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They will continue their slide into Disney Star Wars territory of being hated until they’re forced to do a regime change.
Disney will not upset Feige, and Feige seems to know how to appeal to the masses and that usually doesn't mean having a lot of overt pandering. Kennedy is a completely different beast whose intention was to disrupt the Star Wars universe itself with content and stories that didn't match well. And she obviously had less central control than Feige.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 8:18 am
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 10:24 am to Fewer Kilometers
Insecure men who are easily offended by a confident woman are the only people shitting on Captain Marvel.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 10:25 am
Posted on 8/22/19 at 10:37 am to RobbBobb
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They claimed their showings being sold out, but in reality 20 to 30 seats at each showing were empty.
A whole 20 to 30 seats?! In a theater that likely seats hundreds?! There's no way that people bought tickets in advance but had something come or they bought tickets for friends and a few couldn't make it, etc.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 10:41 am to sorantable
quote:You got me. My praise for Wonder Woman, Aliens, and the Terminator movies was just a smoke screen to hide my toxic male insecurity. All of my talk about making The Wasp the new head of The Avengers? Just more smoke.
Insecure men who are easily offended by a confident woman are the only people shitting on Captain Marvel.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 10:42 am to Fewer Kilometers
yeah anyone who reads any of your posts on this board knows sorantable is an idiot.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 10:46 am to sorantable
What if you just don't like the direction Marvel took one their iconic non-mutant women way before the movie came out because it was just trying to emulate Wonder Woman with a character that really shouldn't while gutting most the cheeky charm she used to have despite some really bad runs and stories?
Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:03 am to EGCROSS
Until they actually start making DC level movies or have a full blown political shite fest, I'm just going to assume they'll do fine.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:22 am to EGCROSS
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Btw the high tomorrow in beautiful Northen Idaho will be 79 degrees.
If its that nice out there, why are you on here with such a foolish take
How was "End Game" infused with the SJW movement LOL! Some of you guys are just as bad as the LIB'S LOL!
Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:32 am to Freauxzen
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But they won't fail because the Phase is weak (it isn't)
I disagree with this. No Spider-man, no FF4 (that we know of) and no X-Men (that we know of). This phase, if you exclude the Disney+ stuff, seems weak to me when compared to phase 2 or 3. I'm not saying I can't be proven wrong and Eternals could be great. I think it's a misstep to have a Black Widow movie that is supposed to take place between Civil War and Infinity War release after Endgame. I would have been more excited about this movie if it was slotted then.
I'm really excited for Doctor Strange and the Disney+ stuff. The idea that they are going to use the Hawkeye series to introduce Kate Bishop is great. Being able to introduce and flesh out characters that way I think makes it easier when they do get introduced in the movies. One of the biggest complaints about Hawkeye through phases 1-3 was they never gave him anything to do. This seems like a way to avoid that.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:34 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Fewer Kilometers
I wasn’t really responding to you.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:44 pm to Rep520
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Whatever the code is, they've cracked it.
The code translates to "Pay Kevin Feige whatever he asks for. No, don't fricking argue with me about it, Mouse. Just do it."
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:10 pm to JasonMason
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No Spider-man
That isn't determined yet. It's all negotiation tactics right now.
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no FF4 (that we know of) and no X-Men (that we know of)
Up until, what February, these weren't going to be a part of anything anyways. Not a big loss necessarily.
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This phase, if you exclude the Disney+ stuff, seems weak to me when compared to phase 2 or 3. I'm not saying I can't be proven wrong and Eternals could be great. I think it's a misstep to have a Black Widow movie that is supposed to take place between Civil War and Infinity War release after Endgame. I would have been more excited about this movie if it was slotted then.
So you leave out the Automatic Billions of Panther and CM? I actually think BP will be a better film than the first was. Coogler has his feet under him, the film doesn't need to tie into Endgame yet. II'm excited for a little more looseness from that one.
If Captain marvel Goes cosmic, there's a lot of fun to have there.
Black Widow was elevated in Endgame and that will payoff and i expect a big genre shift with The Eternals. More drama, less action, which, while possibly less ticket focused, might directly seek to be a more thoughtful film.
You have a film in Shang Chi that I bet joins BP and CM with Billion Dollar openings, a GotG with James Gunn back on board, and possibly Thor involved, and the most interesting looking film of the bunch in Dr. Strange.
I feel like this will be a far looser phase with less of a setup feel, and they are going to use that to direct Phases 5 and 6, I think that's why we see so many varied things in play. For people saying that Marvel makes the same films, or they are tired of superhero films...there's a chance we see another real espionage film, a kung film, a high art drama and a horror film this go around, along with some more typical superhero antics in CM and BP. That's a pretty good slate.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:19 pm to RobbBobb
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I'm just going by what our local people said about Capt Marvel & Black Panther. They claimed their showings being sold out, but in reality 20 to 30 seats at each showing were empty.
Who was the guy in the Captain Marvel thread who kept going to see Captain Marvel over and over just so he could report here on how many empty seats there were?
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:24 pm to Rep520
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Who was the guy in the Captain Marvel thread who kept going to see Captain Marvel over and over just so he could report here on how many empty seats there were?
A troll. He might be banned from this board.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:36 pm to Rep520
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Marvel made hundreds of millions off a franchise about a talking raccoon and talking tree.
Best movies in the bunch, if you ask me, outside, maybe, the Thor and Hulk buddy movie.
But, nobody cares about Gen-X cats who actually read the fricking comic books or liked the original Star Wars movies.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:41 pm to Freauxzen
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You have a film in Shang Chi that I bet joins BP and CM with Billion Dollar openings, a GotG with James Gunn back on board, and possibly Thor involved, and the most interesting looking film of the bunch in Dr. Strange.
Granted these are just my personal opinions and I don't mean to say these movies won't make money, but I don't really care one way or another about Captain Marvel. She never interested me as a lead character in the comics. I didn't think GotG was going to be in phase 4. Shang Chi also isn't really something I care about. Marvel is hitting $1 billion on auto-pilot right now. I already said I'm excited for Doctor Strange. I'm much more interested in Loki, Falcon & Winter Soldier, and Doctor Strange 2.
I think more than anything, the reason I feel this way is because of the finality of Endgame. It was a lot over 10 years and a hell of a ride.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:45 pm to pvilleguru
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A whole 20 to 30 seats?! In a theater that likely seats hundreds?! There's no way that people bought tickets in advance but had something come or they bought tickets for friends and a few couldn't make it, etc
uh, that's almost 20% in our theater. AT EVERY SHOWING
No. 20% of our locals didn't toss away their money, just because
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:53 pm to RobbBobb
You only have one theater in a "medium sized city", and it only seats between 100-150 people?
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