re: Marvel is about to go down and so are Disney’s profits

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Granted these are just my personal opinions and I don't mean to say these movies won't make money, but I don't really care one way or another about Captain Marvel. She never interested me as a lead character in the comics. I didn't think GotG was going to be in phase 4. Shang Chi also isn't really something I care about. Marvel is hitting $1 billion on auto-pilot right now. I already said I'm excited for Doctor Strange. I'm much more interested in Loki, Falcon & Winter Soldier, and Doctor Strange 2.

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Sure, but we're in a thread that says

"Marvel is about to go down and so are Disney’s profits"

Not

"I'm not sure the next phase is my cup of tea"

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Who was the guy in the Captain Marvel thread who kept going to see Captain Marvel over and over just so he could report here on how many empty seats there were?

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Ah to be young again and have too much free time

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Right. The original comment I responded to was about the perception that phase 4 was weak. I'm basing this on popularity of the characters. No X-Men, no FF, no Spider-man (that could change although we aren't getting solo movie in this phase).

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Sure, but Marvel hasn't had X-Men/FF for any of the Infinity Saga, and had Spider-Man for 25% of it. That clearly shows the ability to not rely on this properties.

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Captain Marvel and Black Panther made a ton of money. Black Panther's popularity is pretty high, but I wouldn't say Captain Marvel's is (I'm not basing this opinion off the box office. I am talking about the character in general compared to Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Spider-Man etc). Every Marvel movie hits a billion dollars these days though.

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The most popular characters when the MCU started were Hulk and a distant second Cap. That's it. Thor was relatively minor in the mainstream and Iron Man certainly was. Sure he had a 90s cartoon, but it was like 2 seasons maybe, and never outperformed X-Men 90s. Even in the comic books, Tony was sort of Tier B compared to Spidey, Hulk, Cap. Even Black Panther had more recent comic book success than Iron Man.

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Any of these new franchises could be the next guardians though. Hell once teasers start coming out, everything could change.

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Bingo. And given the track record, would you doubt that?

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They make all around entertaining movies that the whole family can go see and enjoy. My 77 year old dad gets as much a kick out of them as my 7 year old.

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And thats hard to do on a consistent basis, but they've done it. I'm in the group that wishes they slow down and not pump out so many, but if they keep this same game plan, they arent going to slow down anytime soon.

The new phase looks weak to me, just with an eye test, but the sequels they have planned will no doubt kill at the box office and people love a good origin story. I dont think Disney is sweating too much.

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The new phase looks incredibly weak and the more infused they become with the SJW movement the less their movies will be enjoyable

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Considering that Marvel just made the #2 highest grossing film of all time, I don't think they have anything to worry about. They made billion dollar films in BP, CM, IW, and I think Far From Home also hit a billion. They have accomplished something that has never been done before with the 20 movie arc stretching from Iron Man to EndGame. If they decided to call it quits after Endgame I would not have been bothered one bit.


At this point, they aren't working hard trying to find ways to top EndGame. They already won, so now they are able to focus on bringing lesser-known comic book stories that audiences are not nearly as familiar with. They aren't focused on trying to win Oscar's, but rather fun enjoyable movies that both kids and adults will enjoy all the same. Sure, none of these Phase 4 films may make a billion, but that is ok, I guarantee every one of these will still be a success. Not to mention, they have bigger plans coming up after Phase 4. They needed to let some things settle after the intense ride that was IW and EG.


Also about the SJW thing, that is pure bs. Through all of the MCU's 20 movies, the only thing on-screen that audiences can point to was they gay Russo brother appearing on screen, as well as a 6 second clip in the final battle(in which they didn't even accomplish their goal. They lost, and in the end all had to be saved by Tony). There is nothing to worry about with this angle.

Think about it, if Marvel really wanted to go full SJW as you say, why wouldn't they have Scarlet Witch(when she was wrecking Thanos was one of my favorite scenes btw) or Captain Marvel to take down Thanos at the end. It appears Marvel doesn't know how to SJW very well.

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People "tired of the MCU" or tired of superhero movies should maybe be a little optimistic since they are trying to go in different directions first this time. There's no Iron Man to set things in motion.... there's The Eternals, Dr. Strange, Shang Chi, Captain Marvel and GoTG3...there are options.

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I dont think people that are tired of MCU/Super Hero movies are going to be optimistic. There's going to be 20 super hero movies next year. Having the most super hero movies in one year ever isnt really pleasing to those who would like them to slow down.

I would be fine if there werent any more super hero movies. But it doesnt really bother me that they are making so many. I will see a number of them and enjoy a number of them im sure and I wont watch quite a few of them and it will be no sweat off my back. But just because they are going in a different direction doesnt help the argument against the sheer volume they are now putting out.

Im sure for some people there was some excitement after Endgame because you might get a small MCU break. Nope, that just meant more than ever.

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Marvel is about to go down

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Is it 1986 again already?

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There's going to be 20 super hero movies next year.

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That isn't the MCU's fault. The MCU will have 2 next year, maybe 3.

Black Widow, Eternals.

i hope so, although marvel has made some family members a shite ton of money.