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re: Mandalorian Episode 4 thread

Posted on 11/30/19 at 6:50 am to
Posted by Tigerstark
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Posted on 11/30/19 at 6:50 am to
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frick you homos are annoying.

The part you keep bitching about showed for the first time that although Mando loves and respects the Mandolorian way, he is not unflappable and seemed to be considering leaving it behind for a life and family. That’s not something we had seen before now and plays into his character as it gives more background about what motivates him and what he wants.


Yeah, not understanding the complaint. If anything, I thought it was slightly underplayed.

His parents died in front of him. If anything, there is a large part of him that is longing for a quiet place to be part of a family. That had to be enticing as hell. My only question was why the chick would want him, but I'm guessing seeing him taking care of the baby did the trick.

It was probably the weakest of the four episodes, but I still really enjoyed it.

As for the scanner, well...isn't it a biometric scanner? I don't think its a tracker necessarily, because how else did they already get a tracker on every single guy that the bounty hunters are tracking before they disappeared? He can't change the kids DNA (or whatever is used). So, knowing the range problem (already discussed in the show), he took the kid to a backwater world.

Now, other people may be tracking the ship or something else as well, or guys may be methodically working there way through the galaxy checking the planets, or that guy just randomly happened upon the planet (or was there for another bounty).
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25194 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 7:43 am to
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It was probably the weakest of the four episodes, but I still really enjoyed it.


Agreed. But if the other three episodes hadn't been so strong this would have seemed much better. This is not a bad thing. If I am a show runner please have a decent episode seem poor in comparison to everything else we've turned out.

I will say the way the AT-ST stalked Mando and Cara through the forest was fantastic. That was top notch all the way.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:20 am to
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frick you homos are annoying.


He/they come across more as Incels.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:56 am to
It was an alright episode. Some if it felt forced. I get you have time constraints and have to push it forward, but even the fight scene fell a little flat for me. Hey there is this big hole here, but I'm going to move forward into it anyway.

No brightness issues for me.
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 9:01 am
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:02 am to
Didn’t Carl Weathers slap a tracker on Mando’s ship? I assumed that was how he wound up tracking him down. Remember they were on that planet for a couple of months before that attempt.

And that chick was prowling for the D like any young enough MILF would. He saved their asses, including her daughter’s so farmer cougar was slicker than one of them blue shrimp they were farming.

Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20986 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:06 am to
I'm sure this has been covered, but where in the frick did they find these "actors?" It was like watching a high school play with a lot of those deliveries.

Oh, and shite-ton of beskar-forged Manadalorian armor known to withstand blaster bolts AND F*CKING LIGHTSABER strikes, yet this chick isn't breaking her hands throwing fists into it? Gimme a break.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36040 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:22 am to
You’re too old for Star Wars.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:44 am to
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On the GB we have learned to ignore him.
quote:

DoUrden


Who's "we?" Because you're totally one of the popular people on the GB.
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 10:49 am
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 1:33 pm to
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3. He shouldn’t be hurt at all by melee attacks, he has a full suit of beskar armor now. As bad arse as she may be, Carrano shouldn’t have been able to throw him around like that


People keep posting this but no matter how strong the armor is against weapons it does not make him bounce around like Tigger when tossed. Hell Batman has pretty good armor but still felt the impact. Again he falls from a building the armor may hold but the impact he will still feel.

I guess some of you never took an impact in a ballistic vest.
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 1:56 pm to
To be fair, we don't know the properties of Beskar. Possible it is impervious to energy weapons but weaker to kinetic damage.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 2:00 pm to
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To be fair, we don't know the properties of Beskar. Possible it is impervious to energy weapons but weaker to kinetic damage.


I just think it may have superior structural integrity against projectiles and different type of weapons/ But you are still going to feel the impact against blunt force. No different then a knight in plate mail.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19220 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 7:37 pm to
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No one cares about the village, their problems, the raiders, or any part of this conflict. This entire episode was a collection of tropes coupled with some horrible writing.


The cold open was their attempt to make you care.

But, yeah.

Not great.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19220 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 7:59 pm to
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Terrible fight/ plan- I understand they had time to train and all that but why sneak into the base and plant explosives but not blow up the walker?


The wrote the episode backwards.

They wanted to create a scene where an AT-ST attacks a farming village. And everything stemmed from that.

That's just bad writing. Because, as you note, the end result is completely illogical. Fleeing the AT-ST on foot? The villagers are somehow safe from the AT-ST, behind their makeshift barricade?

This is the mark of a hack, because it destroys any sense of dramatic tension. The audience understands almost instantly that characters will ignore their nature to perform whatever narrative shortcut is required, to create the required set piece.

So when our hero gets into trouble, we no longer worry, because we know the writer is going to conjur up a miracle to save him. Alternatively, we understand that our hero may, at any point, suddenly make an out of character mistake, as required by the writer. All to create some dumb set piece, that someone thought would be cool.

And that's probably what happened. Someone in the writers room said lets have a village get attacked by an AT-ST!

And that was it.
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19220 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:04 pm to
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yet this chick isn't breaking her hands throwing fists into it?


That scene defied logic.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:09 pm to
People talking about logic in the Star Wars universe.

A baby green elf that’s 50 picked up a rhino that lays eggs and you are worried about a bad bitch going up side someone’s head.

Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19220 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:15 pm to
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People talking about logic in the Star Wars universe.


Good stories follow consistent and logical rules. That's where the dramatic tension comes from.

Bad writers create and ignore rules on a whim.
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
4841 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:17 pm to
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They wanted to create a scene where an AT-ST attacks a farming village. And everything stemmed from that.


They wanted to write an episode in the tradition of Seven samurai/Magnificent Seven, as every episode has been playing in the classic western and samurai sandboxes. They had to figure out how to condense a 200 minute movie into 40. It led to quick events and transitions, some of which worked and some did not. The star wars robot was icing to keep the nerds who argue about logic in star wars happy.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19220 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:24 pm to
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They wanted to write an episode in the tradition of Seven samurai/Magnificent Seven


They didn't do that though. They simply transplanted their character into the story of Seven Samurai, without thinking about how he would actually behave, and what different choices he might make.

Look at how they forcibly inserted that romance plot line.

They don't respect their characters at all.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:47 pm to
Does a favor, stop watching and cancel your Disney+ membership. Take up knitting with TulaneLSU or whatever he does.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19220 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 9:03 pm to
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