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re: LOST "The Package" S6.E10 (Sun & Jin-centric)
Posted on 3/31/10 at 11:23 am to Uncle Stu
Posted on 3/31/10 at 11:23 am to Uncle Stu
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for most of us, it is/was blatantly obvious that the entire point was for jack to see the reflections
everything else, every word leading up to that, was purely crafted by Jacob to get to the end result. Yet, there are those out there that cant see this, they cant get past it, and completely misunderstand why Jacob brought Jack to the Lighthouse.
I, for the life of me, can't understand why this is so difficult to grasp.
If Jacob thought the best way to get Jack to see the reflections was to tell Hurley that the dial was covered in pudding, he would've done it. His policy of non-interference went right out the window now that he's a ghost. Would we really be dragging out a 30 page thread over pudding that wasn't really there? Judging by some of the posts, I think we would.
Yeah I don't disagree with anything you've just written. I believe you and I are talking about completely different things, which is what I suspected. My question of whether Whidmore was brought back to the Island by Jacob has nothing to do with Lighthouse or why Jacob brought Jack there.
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Posted on 3/31/10 at 11:26 am to tuck
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Whidmore was brought back to the Island by Jacob has nothing to do with Lighthouse or why Jacob brought Jack there.
right on, my bad - I misinterpreted
I am under the distinct impression that Widmore didnt need a lick of help to return as it's been his main goal in life
Posted on 3/31/10 at 11:33 am to Uncle Stu
quote:Yeah, I don't think so either, except for the fact that he'd been banished. Him wanting to go back and Jacob maybe saying to him, "Come on back. Oh and by the way bring some pylons and Desmond, you're gonna need them to battle MIB" isn't out of the realm of possibility.
I am under the distinct impression that Widmore didnt need a lick of help to return as it's been his main goal in life
Right now it's just not clear what Whidmore's intentions are for the island. He want's the electromagnetic energy (but we don't know why yet). But he also appears to be willing (and more importantly prepared) to battle MIB. Just seemed like he knew what was going on and he was there to stop it.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 11:36 am to tuck
Just curious - How does Jin translate to Shin-O-Shee or whatever the frick Sun keeps saying?
Posted on 3/31/10 at 11:37 am to Uncle Stu
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I am under the distinct impression that Widmore didnt need a lick of help to return as it's been his main goal in life
I would like to think that Jacob was referring to Desmond when he told Hurley that someone was coming to the island and that they would manage to find a way to the island even though Jack smashed the mirrors. It would make Des a pretty important piece in the game.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 11:39 am to Uncle Stu
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I cant quite see the connection, but something about the gunshot to the womb and her getting preggers on an island where women die - there's something to it, I just cant see it yet
Maybe when Keamy said that "some people just aren't meant to be together" he wasn't talking about Sun and Jin but perhaps Jin and their daughter. He has yet to meet her in reality and if Sun miscarries in the sideways he will not know her there either.
Just a thought.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 11:49 am to etm512
I have an idea...
I was just reading a few posts up about electromagnetism and such....
Widmore has the island moved and the electromagnetism is somehow harnessed to sink the island to the bottom of the sea.
MIB cannot cross water... Therefore the island sinks from under him and he is defeated.
This is the way I think it goes... but i may just be thinking crazy
I was just reading a few posts up about electromagnetism and such....
Widmore has the island moved and the electromagnetism is somehow harnessed to sink the island to the bottom of the sea.
MIB cannot cross water... Therefore the island sinks from under him and he is defeated.
This is the way I think it goes... but i may just be thinking crazy
Posted on 3/31/10 at 11:51 am to Uncle Stu
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I am under the distinct impression that Widmore didnt need a lick of help to return as it's been his main goal in life
No, but Desmond did.
Didn't Eloise Hawking tell Desmond that he wasn't finished with the island or some crap like that?
Posted on 3/31/10 at 11:54 am to BhamTigah
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Didn't Eloise Hawking tell Desmond that he wasn't finished with the island
When they were at the Lamp post she said the Island wasn't finished with him yet, IIRC.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 11:55 am to WG_Dawg
I knew one of them wasn't finished with the other. 
Posted on 3/31/10 at 12:02 pm to tuck
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Maybe it keeps smokie tied down to the island? Whidmore's search for the energy and his "the war is on" with Locke make me think the two are tied together and that the energy is some way of containing MIB.
I was theorizing about this in the last thread: that the cork was actually the Hatch which kept all the dark matter safely contained underneath the island. MIB cons Locke into preventing the numbers from being entered which forces Des to turn the failsafe, thereby releasing the dark matter. Thus, MIB effectively pops the cork.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 12:07 pm to Decatur
so no one thinks my thought that widmore wants to find the electromagnetic energy is because it can be used to hold in MIB or causes the sinking of the island?
Since the island sinks, MIB is destroyed since he cant really cross water.
Since the island sinks, MIB is destroyed since he cant really cross water.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 12:09 pm to The Eric
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so no one thinks my thought that widmore wants to find the electromagnetic energy is because it can be used to hold in MIB
I think this is a possibility.
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or causes the sinking of the island?
Since the island sinks, MIB is destroyed since he cant really cross water.
I don't know about all of this...I guess anything is possible.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 12:10 pm to Decatur
the electromagnetism may not cause the sinking of the island, but i feel pretty confident that the island sinking destroys MIB since he cant float over water.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 12:12 pm to CocomoLSU
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More enjoyable yeah, but you still have to FFWD through commercials every 7 minutes or so, which is massively annoying.
opposed to actually watching the commercials?
Posted on 3/31/10 at 12:17 pm to Decatur
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I was really concerned that the package was gonna be the Kwon kid instead of Desmond.
funny that the second they said the package was a "who" i said desmond and my wife said baby kwon. the second she said it i thought she was going to be right...
i'm kind of a sunshine pumper when it comes to lost but last night's was my least fave of the season. however, i've had a really high opinion of this season so far and so really it's not that much of a bad mark for me.
are we really given a timetable in the alt timeline?
thus, is jin and sun going to the hospital where jack is currently? and is claire still there?
Posted on 3/31/10 at 12:33 pm to lsumatt
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I am really looking forward to Sayid and Sawyer going at it. The first time Sawyer asks for Sayid's help to do something and Sayid just looks at him with a "I don't give a damn about anything" face should be gold.
Probably not, since Sawyer will likely flip out since he holds Sayid responsible for Juliet's death as well. He wasn't exactly thrilled when Sayid came back to life, and pretty pissed off actually.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 12:40 pm to DivotBreath
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I find myself wanting more of the Miles/Hurley interaction. Miles' line last night, when someone asked if Hurley could track down Richard was great: ". . . not unless he is covered in bacon grease." The show needs a little more humor since most of the story-line is ridiculous anyway -- but I'm still hooked regardless.
I wonder how Jorge Garcia felt about that when he read the script.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 12:43 pm to OMLandshark
"Hey...Don't talk about bacon that way"
Posted on 3/31/10 at 12:45 pm to Decatur
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I would like to think that Jacob was referring to Desmond when he told Hurley that someone was coming to the island and that they would manage to find a way to the island even though Jack smashed the mirrors. It would make Des a pretty important piece in the game.
Thats what I was thinking. I think he was telling the truth that someone was coming to the Island, but he didn't want the Lighthouse to guide them there. And yes I think it is Desmond, not Widmore, that Jacob wants on the Island.
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