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re: LOST Season Finale (5-13)- The Incident
Posted on 5/14/09 at 9:38 am to Antonio Moss
Posted on 5/14/09 at 9:38 am to Antonio Moss
quote:i am tempted to call him Esau too. in the bible, Jacob was the undeserving deceiver. he tricked his father into thinking he was his older brother Esau so that the father would grant him the birthright that should rightfully go to the first born.
Esau/NonLocke
notes: Mr. Black looked older than Jacob. Jacob seems to have the upper hand on the island over Mr. Black. maybe power over the island is the birthright and Jacob has already stolen it which is why Mr. Black wants to kill him in the opening scene.
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Posted on 5/14/09 at 9:39 am to Antonio Moss
35-40 pages 
Posted on 5/14/09 at 9:40 am to Froman
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Froman
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I think this is the guy playing Jacob.
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frick you man, you really took the oh shite moment out of the beginning for most of us that read this thread. What the frick do you not understand about no spoilers in the fricking original post.
\rant
Posted on 5/14/09 at 9:44 am to batman
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My one very small complaint about that episode was Jacob....He was a bit of a puss and was killed way to easily...
and this
quote:
Did anyone else feel like when Jacob touched Locke he was bringing him back to life.... The show has used sacrifice as a huge theme. Jacob knows that he has to sacrifice himself in order to "end" the game.... I want to see if any of the doctors make a comment like "its a miracle"
was going to lead me to this
quote:
Signed, Jesus Christ
But you beat me to it.
Posted on 5/14/09 at 9:54 am to red4lsu
quote:
Signed, Jesus Christ
is anyone else not to happy with the whole jesus sacrifice thing? it seems a little too cliche for me
Posted on 5/14/09 at 9:57 am to manwich
I don't think its Jesus Christ.
Good v. Evil and sacrifice for the greater good have been around much, much longer than Christianity.
The whole show is Destiny v. Free Will. That topic supercedes religion.
Good v. Evil and sacrifice for the greater good have been around much, much longer than Christianity.
The whole show is Destiny v. Free Will. That topic supercedes religion.
Posted on 5/14/09 at 9:59 am to Antonio Moss
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The whole show is Destiny v. Free Will. That topic supercedes religion.
Isn't Christianity based on free will? God chooses us before we are born; what we choose to do after we are born is free will [whether we choose him or not].
Posted on 5/14/09 at 10:02 am to Bowe Knows
quote:
Could be. I'm not at all convinced that Black is also Smokie. Smokie is Smokie....just a bad arse security system!
i am getting that security system installed at my house as soon as i can. anybody have the number?
Posted on 5/14/09 at 10:05 am to noonan
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anybody have the number?
yeah, let me see here... okay
4 8 15 16 23 42 - ask for Mr. Black
This post was edited on 5/14/09 at 10:07 am
Posted on 5/14/09 at 10:09 am to red4lsu
quote:
Isn't Christianity based on free will? God chooses us before we are born; what we choose to do after we are born is free will [whether we choose him or not].
Yes, but Free Will v. Destiny supercedes Christianity. It isn't like Christ died and all of sudden people started debating whether humans have free will. If you look back to ancient Roman and Greek mythology, the topic is discussed at length. While LOST has a lot of Christian themes, there are also many themes from Eygptian, Greek, and Roman mythology, as well as reference to more modern philosophers (Locke, Benton, etc.)
By the way, who remembers who was Jacob's youngest son from the Bible?
Answer: Benjamin
Also, reaching way back to middle school religion class, after Jacob's kingdom was divided amongest the brothers, the land belonging to Benjamin provided the buffer zone between Judah and Israel, the two warring factions.
Interesting.
Posted on 5/14/09 at 10:13 am to lsumatt
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After watching it a second time, I don't think Jacob let Nadia die, I think he saved Sayid from getting hit. That's more consistent with everything else.
That was my exact thoughts.
Man, I can't wait until 2010. Should be freaking epic.
This post was edited on 5/14/09 at 10:25 am
Posted on 5/14/09 at 10:17 am to tylercsbn9
We were told previously that Nadia was "murdered" so there is more to that scene than her just getting hit with a car.
Posted on 5/14/09 at 10:19 am to Antonio Moss
Okay, read this thread, but, there is a lot so forgive me if this has been discussed, but, as mentioned on this board before, the writers have said if we ever saw an overhead shot of the island, it would explain much.
Given all the talk of Dark vs Light, Good vs Evil, is it possible that when you see the island from overhead, it and the second island for a Yin-Yang symbol?
Just a thought.
Given all the talk of Dark vs Light, Good vs Evil, is it possible that when you see the island from overhead, it and the second island for a Yin-Yang symbol?
Just a thought.
Posted on 5/14/09 at 10:19 am to Bowe Knows
quote:
I'm not at all convinced that Black is also Smokie. Smokie is Smokie....just a bad arse security system!
If I remember correctly, Black smoke didn't kill Locke. Black smoke did kill Mr Echo/black preacher dude correct?
Posted on 5/14/09 at 10:26 am to Cdawg
Yes and it also killed the mercenaries that Widmore sent and in the first season it killed the step-brother step-sister couple.
Posted on 5/14/09 at 10:28 am to Cdawg
quote:no, locke looked at it and said what he saw was beautiful
Black smoke didn't kill Locke
remember this?
why does that look like Smokey and Anubis and not Sobek?
Posted on 5/14/09 at 10:29 am to bayoudude
quote:
it killed the step-brother step-sister couple.
Smokie didn't kill either one of them.
Anna Lucia killed Shannon and Boone fell with the drug plane.
Smokie only "killed" Shannon in Boone's vision after Locke knocked him out.
Posted on 5/14/09 at 10:32 am to bayoudude
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Yes and it also killed the mercenaries that Widmore sent
It had to keep Ben alive so that he can convince Locke to leave and eventually kill Jacob.
Posted on 5/14/09 at 10:32 am to tylercsbn9
quote:
quote: it killed the step-brother step-sister couple. Smokie didn't kill either one of them. Anna Lucia killed Shannon and Boone fell with the drug plane. Smokie only "killed" Shannon in Boone's vision after Locke knocked him out.
I think he was referring to paulo and nikki. smokie manifested into the medusa spider, paralyzed them and was buried alive
eta: my bad, he was referring to boone/shannon as they were the related ones, not paulo/nikki
This post was edited on 5/14/09 at 10:35 am
Posted on 5/14/09 at 10:34 am to manwich
Thoughts and questions:
Do you think Jacob ever discussed Black with Richard or if Richard even knows Black exists? I guess we understand why Richard was so surprised Locke was brought back to life on the island because he obviously wasn't brought back to life.
Any significance with Jacob telling Hurley that he is blessed, not cursed? Is his blessed nature anything more than just being able to talk with his dead friends? Something with Charlie and the guitar case?
In regards to the incident, was the bomb going off what happened in the original incident or was it just the electromagnetic pocket being released? The reason I asked is that Pierre Chang made those instructional films after the incident. If the incident was the bomb negating the electromagnetic pocket, I don't think he had a chance to get far enough away to be safe from the blast.
Also, after seeing Jacob and the Black's situation, it almost makes the Losties ordeal insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
Do you think Jacob ever discussed Black with Richard or if Richard even knows Black exists? I guess we understand why Richard was so surprised Locke was brought back to life on the island because he obviously wasn't brought back to life.
Any significance with Jacob telling Hurley that he is blessed, not cursed? Is his blessed nature anything more than just being able to talk with his dead friends? Something with Charlie and the guitar case?
In regards to the incident, was the bomb going off what happened in the original incident or was it just the electromagnetic pocket being released? The reason I asked is that Pierre Chang made those instructional films after the incident. If the incident was the bomb negating the electromagnetic pocket, I don't think he had a chance to get far enough away to be safe from the blast.
Also, after seeing Jacob and the Black's situation, it almost makes the Losties ordeal insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
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