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re: Looking back Jim Halpert was a bit of a dick

Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28860 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:30 pm to
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Michael is an idiot who would have been fired long ago for many actions he took
Dwight consistently harassed people for various reasons and damn near shot someone
Angela is super judgmental and started a fight between Andy and Dwight
Ryan and Kelly are always fighting or fricking also Ryan had a coke problem and probably the biggest dick in the show at times
Creed is well Creed
Meredith is a drunk and kind of slutty
Andy has massive anger problems
Kevin is just slow
Oscar is kind of pretentious



i think that's why i like parks and rec more. they're all obviously flawed individuals, but none of the main cast are just giant douche bags you hate by the end of it all.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24518 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:35 pm to
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Quite the opposite. Jim was soft. Dwight was the real man. His no-nonsense approach is the way to operate.




I DVd you for speaking ill of Jim; however, you're not really wrong
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28860 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:39 pm to
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And we see Dwight's character evolve over time as well from the absolutely try-hard to a dude that's genuinely not a bad guy at his core. He's just different/quirky.




while i really do tend to avoid/skip later seasons, michaels and schur did a good job of tying it up. Jim genuinely supporting him as assistant manager while still being a goofball but not mean spirited all while Dwight was still the caricature but a good manager and friend was a nice character arc for both of them.

they finished it up really well considering what most of the post-michael era was.
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 12:40 pm
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6502 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:45 pm to
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Dwight was the real man. His no-nonsense approach is the way to operate.


When Dwight struck back, he struck back hard. My favorite was when Jim let’s Dwight overhear his credit card number, and Dwight uses it to order $200 in flowers for Pam.
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8059 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:49 pm to
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Andy has massive anger problems


While this was shown a bit early on (Andy getting upset about the Jello in Stamford). Jim prank sent Andy over the edge. Jim should have known from the Stamford jello trash can kick that Andy could snap. Jim being a dick again.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31827 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:59 pm to
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none of the main cast are just giant douche bags you hate by the end of it all.


Do you consider mark brandowitz a main character?
Posted by mametoo
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
3215 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 1:05 pm to
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I never felt they acknowledged how awful Pam could be, though.


Karen did call her kind of a bitch during a confessional.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 1:09 pm to
As amazing as the office is. They have so many characters you hate. Jim and Pam together are the worst.

This is why at the end of the day Parks and Rec >>> the office.

And I love the office.
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 1:13 pm
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 1:09 pm to
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I think people are hyper focused on Jim’s problems because he’s the most normal of everyone.

Michael is an idiot who would have been fired long ago for many actions he took
Dwight consistently harassed people for various reasons and damn near shot someone
Angela is super judgmental and started a fight between Andy and Dwight
Ryan and Kelly are always fighting or fricking also Ryan had a coke problem and probably the biggest dick in the show at times
Creed is well Creed
Meredith is a drunk and kind of slutty
Andy has massive anger problems
Kevin is just slow
Oscar is kind of pretentious

Keep going. You missed Phyllis, Pam, Toby, and Stan.
Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
2610 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 1:10 pm to
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Dwight was a kiss arse


Boom, roasted.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49256 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 1:35 pm to
True but Jim only did it because Andy was annoying the shite out of everyone, in fact he only ever pranked (from what I remember) Dwight and Andy in part because they were either annoying or harassing someone

Jim at worst could be an arse at times or do a dumb prank but he never harassed anyone or tried to fight them
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28860 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 1:36 pm to
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Do you consider mark brandowitz a main character?


Not really. He’s a bit of a douche but still a pretty nice guy. Handled Anne poorly.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 1:54 pm to
Mark was not a bad character on parks and rec especially after watching season one multiple times after originally not being a fan of that season.
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
5215 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 2:10 pm to
If you had to work closely with someone like Jim and someone like Dwight, 90% of people would dislike “Dwight” much more. Without a doubt
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8059 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 2:36 pm to
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Mark was not a bad character on parks and rec especially after watching season one multiple times after originally not being a fan of that season.



I agree with this. Mark was just a normal dude that was working a government job.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9192 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 2:49 pm to
My take on Jim is that he was a medium effort guy his whole life. Smart but not driven or motivated so he just coasted through school. Somehow he ended up at DM, probably just the first table at the career fair that took his application.

He finds himself in the real world of middle class, nowhere, boring, hum drum, invisibility. He's part of the herd that makes up society. He's smart enough to see this, and to think that he's superior to everyone else in the Office. He's "better than them", yet sharing the same exact fate.

The reality that he squandered his potential is hitting him. As a way to feel "better than" is to prank Dwight and look smugly at the camera. It's a defense mechanism for his own feelings of failure.

I might have a little bit of Jim in me. Especially in a past job. I worked for a small company (70 ppl) that I called the island of misfit employees. I swear the owner sought to hire and surround himself with losers that knew they were lucky to even have a job, to they would do ANYTHING for him. Basically worshipped him. I stuck it out there until I could climb out of that pit, never looked back.

Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 3:16 pm to
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He's a likeable douche


It’s this exactly with Jim, his more action heavy roles like Jack Ryan, and the family aspect of A Quiet Place that originally made me think John Krasinski could pull off the best yet Reed Richards film adaptation.
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
10651 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 3:16 pm to
My favorite episodes are the ones where Jim gets his come uppins. He's a piece of shite
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23872 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 12:40 am to
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Jim prank sent Andy over the edge. Jim should have known from the Stamford jello trash can kick that Andy could snap. Jim being a dick again


only one character punched a wall because they couldn’t find their cell phone
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 12:47 am to
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I liked that the series acknowledged it from time to time,
Amazing, right? It's almost as if they presented the characters as flawed like real people instead of platonic ideals of black/white good/evil.

And the best part is - now we get to start the 50th thread hating Jim because he's flawed!
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 2:48 pm
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