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re: Lone Survior was a good movie but ending is total BS (spoilers)
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:31 am to Flash_Gordon
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:31 am to Flash_Gordon
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Flash_Gordon
Well you just need to chill the frick out buddy.
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How does a movie have errors?
Fine, inconsistencies with what really happened.
Happy?
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:44 am to GeauxxxTigers23
It was all bullshite from the beginning. You can't shock a flat-lining heart back to normal.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:23 am to Flash_Gordon
I'm not even sure who is trolling who in this thread anymore. Good lord. 
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:29 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Happy?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 5:54 am to rebeloke
Sometimes movies have to go to an extreme to get its point across. The point is these guys are tough as nails, and gave up their life plus more to protect our country.
For example: IF they made a movie about your life and the toilets you fix, then they would have to throw some extra "shite" in there to entertain us.
RIP to everyone involved
For example: IF they made a movie about your life and the toilets you fix, then they would have to throw some extra "shite" in there to entertain us.
RIP to everyone involved
Posted on 1/14/14 at 7:34 am to JAXTiger16
SEALs are Badass MFers but they are human, as evidenced by the fact that they have families and know that there is a 25% chance of survival rate.
The movie did a great job of building the characters but it went too far on the battle scene. There were too many Tallies and they moved too fast. No damn way they sustain much less mobilize that many people. But the film did capture the way a SEAL never quits and is willing to die for the team.
They also really screwed up the nature of rescue. The guy who saved him was feared by the Warlord. He survived due to his protection and was never threatened while at the village. That in and of itself was a amazing that in his greatest need and darkest hour he as able to find a refuge. It is really a miracle that he was rescued.
Morning after, I am not as mad but still wish they knew that SEALs do more than BUDs training, that they hadn't inflated the numbers quite so much, and hadn't changed the facts surrounding the story quite so much.
The movie did a great job of building the characters but it went too far on the battle scene. There were too many Tallies and they moved too fast. No damn way they sustain much less mobilize that many people. But the film did capture the way a SEAL never quits and is willing to die for the team.
They also really screwed up the nature of rescue. The guy who saved him was feared by the Warlord. He survived due to his protection and was never threatened while at the village. That in and of itself was a amazing that in his greatest need and darkest hour he as able to find a refuge. It is really a miracle that he was rescued.
Morning after, I am not as mad but still wish they knew that SEALs do more than BUDs training, that they hadn't inflated the numbers quite so much, and hadn't changed the facts surrounding the story quite so much.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 7:54 am to rebeloke
I know this will ruin your day, but Jurrasic Park is actually a made up story as well. Good lord, did you think you were watching the history channel?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 7:59 am to rebeloke
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rebeloke
I look forward to reading your memoirs. When will they be hitting the shelves ?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 8:00 am to rebeloke
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know that there is a 25% chance of survival rate.
Pretty sure that number is a bit off.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 8:01 am to LNCHBOX
You cracked a funny.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 8:03 am to rebeloke
He had problems with the Taliban after he got to the village. Five or six came in his room and beat his arse for several hours until the village elder showed up and ran them off. He was also moved several times - spent at least one night in a cave and another on the roof of a different house - when the Taliban was in the village.
In his book, Luttrell claims his team was outnumbered 35 to 1. After action reports and Murphy's MOH citation show that figure to be a gross exaggeration, but they were undoubtedly outnumbered.
In his book, Luttrell claims his team was outnumbered 35 to 1. After action reports and Murphy's MOH citation show that figure to be a gross exaggeration, but they were undoubtedly outnumbered.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 8:20 am to rebeloke
do you understand what "based on a true story" means?
jesus christ...it's hollywood, of course they will inflate shite, just like they do for every fricking "based on a true story" movie
jesus christ...it's hollywood, of course they will inflate shite, just like they do for every fricking "based on a true story" movie
Posted on 1/14/14 at 8:29 am to rebeloke
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News flash: Not even a damn seal takes that kind of beating and keeps going. It was like the Rocky of war movies. And the liberties were total BS. Google the real account of OP Red Wings.
Why don't you read the book. They did take that kind of a beating. After you read Lone Survivor, read Service by Marcus Luttrell. He talks at length about how long it took him to recover from his injuries and how hard his second tour was because of the injuries he sustained in Operation Red Wing. He also talks about how his injuries forced him to retire from the Seals.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 8:45 am to Carson123987
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Read the book
from what ive read, the book takes some liberties as well
I did like when marcus would go off on a tangent bashing congress. zero dark 30 is a better movie IMHO
Posted on 1/14/14 at 9:01 am to rebeloke
Why can't you douche rockets just enjoy a damn movie? frick.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 9:02 am to rebeloke
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Let's see... They changed major aspects of the story, like Marcus dies, almost gets decapitated, and a major battle at the end. The movie was tabbed as a true story.
BASED on a true story
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Saving Private Ryan
Fiction
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Act of Valor
Fiction
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I mean hollywood is so damn clueless they think BUDS graduates are SEALs.
this was never said or even implied
Posted on 1/14/14 at 9:05 am to supatigah
Exactly. It's not a documentary. It's a Hollywood movie. If you want a documentary watch Restrepo.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 9:10 am to White Roach
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He had problems with the Taliban after he got to the village. Five or six came in his room and beat his arse for several hours until the village elder showed up and ran them off. He was also moved several times - spent at least one night in a cave and another on the roof of a different house - when the Taliban was in the village. In his book, Luttrell claims his team was outnumbered 35 to 1. After action reports and Murphy's MOH citation show that figure to be a gross exaggeration, but they were undoubtedly outnumbered.
When I read this book years ago, I was amazed by the story, the survival and the heroism.
The more I find out about this whole deal, the more reality sets in for me:
(1) What happened, especially relative to Murphy, was truly heroic;
(2) This situation should have never happened but for gross failures at the command level;
(3) For some reason, and I cannot put my finger on it, Luttrell is starting to rub me the wrong way...I cannot tell if it is untrustworthiness, or it may be as simple as general awkwardness that he has been and continues to be thrust into the spotlight over this story...if it is the later, shame on me;
(4) I think the movie really screwed up his time in the village...to me the account of what actually happened was more compelling than the battle that did not take place but was in the movie anyway; and
(5) from a medical standpoint relative to the movie, I have no clue why after surviving for three days in the village and killing a guy in a knife fight, Marcus would all of the sudden code when he was rescued (maybe it is a sign of modern medicine
). It obviously didn't happen in real life and I didn't think it added anything to the movie. All things considered, I think the movie could have been better, but it certainly could have been worse as well.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 9:20 am to rebeloke
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Saving Private Ryan
Complete work of fiction.
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Act of Valor
Complete work of fiction.
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Lone Survior
A strongly fact-grounded account of the "Lone Survivor's" account of what happened, with Hollywood liberties to make it a more entertaining experience. And you don't attack the entertainment value, but rather than accuracy - accuracy which is not even claimed.
Zero Dark Thirty was a good (bordered on great at times) film, but was clearly filled with inaccuracies, composite characters and Hollywood "exigencies" - although strongly fact-based. Is your opinion better, worse or the same as Lone Survivor?
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