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re: Lone Survior was a good movie but ending is total BS (spoilers)
Posted on 1/14/14 at 10:07 pm to White Roach
Posted on 1/14/14 at 10:07 pm to White Roach
I have. I actually read if before I had ever heard of Lone Survivor. It's pretty good. It gives a much broader view of the operation and what preceded and followed it. Lone Survivor is a more exciting read though. Ed Darack is kind of a homer for the Marines and he bashes the SEALs a little bit. Well, not the SEALs but the SOCOM command in Afghanistan at the time. I do think his reporting is accurate though.
There is some action in it as well. The Marines eventually conducted a follow on operation in the same area and got into a pretty intense fight with Ahmed Shah's army and killed most of them.
I'd recommend it. It's not too long and will help you understand the early years of the Afghan war much better.
There is some action in it as well. The Marines eventually conducted a follow on operation in the same area and got into a pretty intense fight with Ahmed Shah's army and killed most of them.
I'd recommend it. It's not too long and will help you understand the early years of the Afghan war much better.
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 6:06 am to rebeloke
My son was not in this movie.......but he has met Marcus and worked with his brother. I believe Marcus brother is a twin. Let the "Tidehaters son is not a seal" begin.....lol. 
Posted on 1/15/14 at 6:50 am to TideHater
You're correct. Morgan and Marcus are twins
I'm a SEAL fanboy so I'd like to high five your son and ask him 1000 questions(the ones he could answer)
I'm a SEAL fanboy so I'd like to high five your son and ask him 1000 questions(the ones he could answer)
Posted on 1/15/14 at 7:27 am to Black
Marcus outranks my son. He threatened him once over a girl i think....lol.
Posted on 1/15/14 at 7:35 am to rebeloke
I guess you missed the "based on a true story" disclaimer at the start, key words there "based on".
All these movies take liberties, some more than others. Argo, Captain Phillips ... there's a bunch of Hollywood in all of them.
Knowing that, I thought it was a very good movie.
All these movies take liberties, some more than others. Argo, Captain Phillips ... there's a bunch of Hollywood in all of them.
Knowing that, I thought it was a very good movie.
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:03 am to GrammarKnotsi
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He goes over this in the Anderson Cooper interview..He wishes he would have died there too
I watched that interview after I saw the movie, and he kinda rubbed me the wrong way a little bit (as I see others feel the same way too). One thing that stood out to me was something like when AC asked him if he wished he had died out there on that mountain, he says something like "Well I did die on that mountain, sir."
While I can sort of see what he's trying to say, it comes off as fairly disrespectful to the other three guys and their families IMO, because he didn't die out there...he lived. And even if a part of him "died" out there (with his brothers), he didn't, and he lives to tell the story. But don't sit there and talk down at someone else and tell them that you did, in fact, die out there.
It just seemed I dunno...sort of disingenuous and pretentious, and I immediately looked at him differently.
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:32 am to CocomoLSU
I wonder if he has a condition that allows him to reconstruct his past in his own mind? The movie has him dying and he may now believe he did.
It has happened to other well know figures. Ergun Caner was the Dean of Liberty Seminary when he started claiming he was trained at Jihadist camps as a teenager. His father was from Turkey but there are High School Annuals that document his presence in the US at the time. He started off claiming religious radical exposure and ventured into terrorist training camps. He did this while addressing large crowds, so everything he said and how his story changed was recorded.
I know it is unrelated but does support that it has happened. Throw in there battle trauma and such, it is possible he suffers from delusions.
Ergun Caner Scandal
It has happened to other well know figures. Ergun Caner was the Dean of Liberty Seminary when he started claiming he was trained at Jihadist camps as a teenager. His father was from Turkey but there are High School Annuals that document his presence in the US at the time. He started off claiming religious radical exposure and ventured into terrorist training camps. He did this while addressing large crowds, so everything he said and how his story changed was recorded.
I know it is unrelated but does support that it has happened. Throw in there battle trauma and such, it is possible he suffers from delusions.
Ergun Caner Scandal
Posted on 1/15/14 at 8:34 am to CocomoLSU
Cokes, you should look up several of the videos interviews with ML online and you will get a bit more flavor for him. he is a very complex character in real life and what I gather from the composite of those interviews is that he lives with a lot of inner conflict about the things that have happened and he may feel differently about certain aspects depending on what day it is and how is emotions are at the time.
I like how he openly acknowledges that the events in the book are only from his view point and and he didn't see everything obviously. he really wishes there were other perspectives on the fight that could be shared
I like how he openly acknowledges that the events in the book are only from his view point and and he didn't see everything obviously. he really wishes there were other perspectives on the fight that could be shared
Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:24 am to Tiger Ryno
I certainly don't doubt how he feels at all, and I'd never try to tell him how he should react. I just mean that when I see him do an interview on CNN and he is saying "I died up on that mountain too," it comes off a little wrong to me. Like I said, I have no doubts that he feels like part of him died and is left up there with his brothers, but it seems a bit pretentious and unfair to the families of those brothers for him to say that (even if he is trying not to come across like that, which I'm sure he's not trying to sound pretentious at all).
Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:37 am to CocomoLSU
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I certainly don't doubt how he feels at all, and I'd never try to tell him how he should react. I just mean that when I see him do an interview on CNN and he is saying "I died up on that mountain too," it comes off a little wrong to me. Like I said, I have no doubts that he feels like part of him died and is left up there with his brothers, but it seems a bit pretentious and unfair to the families of those brothers for him to say that (even if he is trying not to come across like that, which I'm sure he's not trying to sound pretentious at all).
I felt the exact same way when I heard that comment. It just kind of rubbed me the wrong way.
Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:40 am to LST
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It just kind of rubbed me the wrong way.
Yeah, and he basically corrected Cooper when he said it. Cooper was like "Do you sometimes wish you died up there?" and he was basically like "What do you mean..I did die up there, sir."
Posted on 1/15/14 at 1:40 pm to CocomoLSU
I just watched the 60 minutes interview yesterday. It's the only Luttrell interview I've seen. I think the poor guy is an emotional basket case and is still in anguish (8+ years later) over what happened. Overall, I have more sympathy for him now than I did before seeing it. I won't be surprised if he shoots himself.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 12:14 am to White Roach
+1
Posted on 1/20/14 at 2:58 pm to RollTide1987
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As well as a movie that took a lot of liberties with the actual battle while proclaiming it as a true story.
Go watch the movie with younger generation, understanding that it was "Hollywood"ed up some.
But I took from that movie that these guys are damn hero's, fought their asses off and hopefully some of the younger generation understands what our soldiers go through for our freedom.
Great movie
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