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re: Let’s Overanalyze Jurassic Park and it’s Sequels
Posted on 1/5/21 at 12:31 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 1/5/21 at 12:31 pm to OMLandshark
As far as the Triceratops droppings go...
Do the park people gather up all the droppings into one big pile (doesn’t make much sense) ? Or did a lone Triceratops drop that massive pile?
The bigger pile looks roughly the height of Malcolm. Based on a quick Wikipedia search, Triceratops ranged up to 9-10 ft in height with 6ft man roughly the height of the bottom of its arse. Are we led to believe that a dinosaur that size could drop a load so big and tall just eating plants?
If so, then that is truly “one big pile of shite”.
ETA: please forgive my crude and not fully to scale drawing, but I think I estimated it fairly close. No way a Triceratops could leave a pile that big.
I’ll leave it to someone else to calculate the volume of that pile. Jeff Goldblum is 6’4 in real life. Assume the pile is fairly uniformly conical in shape.
Do the park people gather up all the droppings into one big pile (doesn’t make much sense) ? Or did a lone Triceratops drop that massive pile?
The bigger pile looks roughly the height of Malcolm. Based on a quick Wikipedia search, Triceratops ranged up to 9-10 ft in height with 6ft man roughly the height of the bottom of its arse. Are we led to believe that a dinosaur that size could drop a load so big and tall just eating plants?
If so, then that is truly “one big pile of shite”.
ETA: please forgive my crude and not fully to scale drawing, but I think I estimated it fairly close. No way a Triceratops could leave a pile that big.
I’ll leave it to someone else to calculate the volume of that pile. Jeff Goldblum is 6’4 in real life. Assume the pile is fairly uniformly conical in shape.
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 12:57 pm
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 12:47 pm to habz007
What number did Ellie call to get the Marines to storm Isla Sorna like it was Iwo Jima over 5 ppl?
Posted on 1/5/21 at 12:56 pm to Dr RC
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I view Hammond's constant claims of "spared no expense" as him lying to himself to make up for the fact that he very clearly cut a lot of corners
Yep. He spared no expense on some stuff, window dressing things like ice cream and voice over narration, but went cheap on most everything else.
Squeeze out every buck and do just enough to sell it as high end.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 1:29 pm to habz007
Always assumed that giant pile was from one of the big sauropods. Ellie was digging in a pile not much taller than her while crouching which was obviously the triceratops
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 1/5/21 at 2:05 pm to Sun God
The sequence in which they accidentally let out the Indominus in JW was extremely frustrating. They were really quick to just walk into the cage without confirming the location of the tracking beacon. And then the typical and cliche radio static prevented the control room from warning them. A simple wait and confirm approach would've prevented the whole thing. Then you have the incompentent fatass open the door and let it out. Probably would've helped to have a human-size door in the pen for just such an emergency. Poor planning and execution all around, but I guess that's typical of this series.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:29 pm to bricksandstones
This isn’t an overly analytical statement about JW but D’Onofrio turned in the cheeseball performance of our generation
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:45 pm to Sun God
One more thing--- the laser pointer which tells the indoraptor which target to eliminate. If you can point a laser at something isn't it easier to just shoot it with a gun or missile?
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:47 pm to Dr RC
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I view Hammond's constant claims of "spared no expense" as him lying to himself to make up for the fact that he very clearly cut a lot of corners to get to where he is w/the park
I mean...yeah.
Is this not obvious to most people? The whole island was run on a shoestring where possible and had numerous oversights. They had Hammond say it like 10 times in the movie.
Crichton wasn't warning against scientists playing God like God/Mother Nature was going to literally take vengenance on them. He was saying that human judgment, especially when impaired by greed and hubris, can lead to drastic consequences, especially as you layer over more and more complex systems.
It's still bullshite that Hammond isn't killed by his creation in the first movie as he was in the book. It was thematically necessary, he suffers literally no consequences except a bruised ego.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 4:25 pm to Jor Jor The Dinosaur
quote:The 'spared no expense' line has been a running joke for me and a couple of friends in the entertainment industry for years.
Yep. He spared no expense on some stuff, window dressing things like ice cream and voice over narration, but went cheap on most everything else.
I mean, seriously - he 'spared no expense' to get Richard fricking Kiley? What, was Roscoe Lee Brown not available?
quote:Now, this one makes sense, sort of. Hammond was a former carny barker who became rich, probably by getting a huge ROI for his other projects. Along comes JP, and he puts out a bid for a hugely complicated IT system and gets legitimate bids and probably thinks, "You want HOW much? For a bunch of computers that can turn the lights on and off??" without realizing what he's asking them to do.
He makes the comment of something like "Do you know anybody else that can do X-Y-Z for what I bid for this job?" And Hammond is like "I'm sorry you have problems but they are YOUR problems" or whatever. So if you're "sparing no expense," why go with the (assumedly) lowest bidder for all of your IT and automation services? If anything, that's where you should spend more than normal. Especially in 1993.
So of course he would go with the lowest bidder, and still bitch about how much it cost him (and how it isn't working the way he thought it would). Nedry actually seems to have done a pretty damn good job considering.
I do want to take time out to commend Spielberg for casting Samuel L Jackson as Arnold. Rather than being the token magic Negro computer whiz, he plays the part perfectly - a cynical, chain-smoking, old-school FORTRAN coder who was probably looking at JP as his big payoff after decades of slaving over department store chain inventory management and junior college enrollment programs.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 6:47 pm to FearlessFreep
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I do want to take time out to commend Spielberg for casting Samuel L Jackson as Arnold. Rather than being the token magic Negro computer whiz, he plays the part perfectly - a cynical, chain-smoking, old-school FORTRAN coder who was probably looking at JP as his big payoff after decades of slaving over department store chain inventory management and junior college enrollment programs.
The book had Arnold as a former Navy systems engineer who then later worked on the construction of Disney World and Magic Mountain.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 6:53 pm to Wally Sparks
quote:Been a minute since I read the book - but that works too
The book had Arnold as a former Navy systems engineer who then later worked on the construction of Disney World and Magic Mountain.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 7:02 pm to OMLandshark
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I think people would notice after like 2 years when you start making your own Jurassic Park and somehow the fat coward doesn’t eat you out.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:44 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Before anyone asks, the T-Rex got into the Visitors Center through the unfinished wall (blue arrow). 4:3 VHS releases always crop out the wide shot, so a lot of people who have never seen the widescreen format of Jurassic Park think that this is a continuity error.
Wow that’s a huge issue
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:50 pm to Upperdecker
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Wow that’s a huge issue
Back when IMDb had message boards, my favorite past time was nitpicking movies. On the Jurassic Park message board, this was a question that constantly came up, and I could never convince people that the T-Rex in the Visitors Center was not a goof.
Even though the movie made $900 million in its original theatrical run, the majority of people have based their memory on watching it on VHS, and you miss a lot of detail due to pan-and-scan.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:15 pm to Muthsera
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t's still bullshite that Hammond isn't killed by his creation in the first movie as he was in the book. It was thematically necessary, he suffers literally no consequences except a bruised ego
It’s a very timely thread. For my son’s 14th birthday we rented out a theater and watched Jurassic Park with his friends. I was in 2nd grade and just couldn’t make it through the whole thing at that age. It was fun to see it in theaters again.
The one thing I didn’t notice really till this go round was how completely blinded Hammond was until I heard his story about the flea circus while eating ice cream. I don’t know how I always remembered him more favorably in past viewings compared to this time.
Maybe I just compared him to Mr Mizrahi in JW. Just seemed like a genuinely nice rich guy, but he was off his rocker.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:19 pm to 3nOut
When Ellie scolds him over the melting ice cream, he ceases to be book Hammond and becomes movie Hammond.
My guess is that Spielberg, who at this point was starting to make his movies kid friendly to the max, just couldn’t bare to have evil book Hammond. Especially, if you know how book Hammond gets his comeuppance.
My guess is that Spielberg, who at this point was starting to make his movies kid friendly to the max, just couldn’t bare to have evil book Hammond. Especially, if you know how book Hammond gets his comeuppance.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:51 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Favorite movie of all time. Cant believe it took me until 32 to read the book. My dad took me to see it in theaters.... I was 5!
Posted on 1/5/21 at 10:53 pm to VinegarStrokes
Brah.... can’t believe no ones mentioned it. That’s Scott Smalls man. Best friend of the one and only Benny the Jet Rodriguez
Posted on 1/6/21 at 6:45 am to UndercoverBryologist
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When Ellie scolds him over the melting ice cream, he ceases to be book Hammond and becomes movie Hammond.
Even the “book Hammond” in the movie was a much softer one than the novel version.
Posted on 1/6/21 at 7:34 am to extremetigerfanatic
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Brah.... can’t believe no ones mentioned it. That’s Scott Smalls man. Best friend of the one and only Benny the Jet Rodriguez
What?
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