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Posted on 9/9/15 at 9:06 am to Breesus
Thank god for an alternative to the Fallon numbskullery.
Colbert could have come out and dropped a giant deuce on the stage and it would still stomp Fallon to a pulp.
Gotta love the "this show sucks" comments 10 minutes into it. Ah, idiocracy...
Colbert could have come out and dropped a giant deuce on the stage and it would still stomp Fallon to a pulp.
Gotta love the "this show sucks" comments 10 minutes into it. Ah, idiocracy...
Posted on 9/9/15 at 9:10 am to RockAndRollDetective
I liked the first show. The band was a little lame IMO. The Roots are great, so that is my benchmark.
It did seem very Colbert Report-ish, especially with the interviews. Which isn't a terrible thing. He actually asked some interesting questions and the Jeb interview didn't seem rehearsed at all (unlike Fallon). This show has a lot of potential.
It did seem very Colbert Report-ish, especially with the interviews. Which isn't a terrible thing. He actually asked some interesting questions and the Jeb interview didn't seem rehearsed at all (unlike Fallon). This show has a lot of potential.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 9:13 am to SUB
I like that the band leader is from Kenna-Brah. I don't like his little wind piano thing at all.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 9:19 am to Napoleon
I thought the same thing. I was excited to see a native LA guy up there, but it was just kind of meh.
I don't understand why they picked Clooney as his first guest. He's not that interesting and it's clear that South Park was spot on about him. He just seems like a pretentious douche.
I don't understand why they picked Clooney as his first guest. He's not that interesting and it's clear that South Park was spot on about him. He just seems like a pretentious douche.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 9:25 am to GEAUXmedic
The Jeb interview was good. You can tell Colbert was much more comfortable doing that, for obvious reasons.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 9:39 am to SUB
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I don't understand why they picked Clooney as his first guest. He's not that interesting and it's clear that South Park was spot on about him. He just seems like a pretentious douche.
I guess maybe he was just available? Maybe the idea that the first guest has to be some earth-shattering selection might be beside the point. IMO, of course.
But I agree that there's something about him that's a bit... pillish. He thinks he is a comic genius and in conversation he holds way too tightly to being facetious. He thinks facetiousness is GOLD, Jerry! Fraid not. In the wrong hands, it's tiresome.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 9:48 am to RockAndRollDetective
I still can't believe how much that sucked last night.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:20 am to AlaTiger
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All of you are wrong. This is fantastic. He is mocking everything - Advertising with the amulet Media's obsession with Trump with the Oreos Celebrity worship over nothing with Clooney The band is mocking all of the Late Night bands Even his little thing with Fallon mocked the idea of competition between the two. He has taken a whole different approach with the first show and is going for satire. Why is no one else seeing this?
All of this.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:20 am to theGarnetWay
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That and I think his contract is around $5 million for at least 3 years.
But if anyone wants to bet that he'll be let go in 3 months I'll take that.
Plus CBS spent a fortune promoting the show and remodeling the studio for Colbert. Unless it's an unmitigated disaster ratings wise, he should be just fine. This isn't like a Jay Leno/Conan thing where there's somebody waiting in the wings for your job. And if the ratings are terrible, they'll just goose them by getting every CBS star to appear on the show and begging David Letterman and/or Jon Stewart to pop up as guests.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:27 am to SnoopALoop
I can't believe how many people think the Trump bit was just a straight up "hey everyone look how crazy Trump is har har har." Yes there was a part of that, which admittedly wasn't that funny, but the crux of the bit was how easy a target Trump is and how so many comedians and shows do bits like that even when they know it's stale and unfunny and not good for them, like Oreo's.
Same with the Clooney interview, which was a little clunky at times, but again that was the point. He was mocking all these other shows where guests act like they're best friends with the host when in actuality they've spoken twice before in their entire lives.
Again same with the hummus. Everyone does product placement, but most shows try and do it subtly so you don't realize they're doing it. The whole point was to mock the concept of product placement by being over the top with it, a classic Colbert Report move. Even though he's lost his conservative blowhard schtick, he's clearly not lost his appetite for satire.
Same with the Clooney interview, which was a little clunky at times, but again that was the point. He was mocking all these other shows where guests act like they're best friends with the host when in actuality they've spoken twice before in their entire lives.
Again same with the hummus. Everyone does product placement, but most shows try and do it subtly so you don't realize they're doing it. The whole point was to mock the concept of product placement by being over the top with it, a classic Colbert Report move. Even though he's lost his conservative blowhard schtick, he's clearly not lost his appetite for satire.
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Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:35 am to tigerfan88
Posted in other thread but after reading this one I have to say I don't get the hate for Colbert's first show. I never, not once, have watched the Colbert Report so I have no preconceived notion about this guy. I tuned in right at the Trump Oreo bit and found it mildly amusing. I really liked the interviews, it's where this guy really shined. Alternatively, I flipped back and forth to Fallon and he was interviewing Richard Gere. That was boring and bad. No comparison really. I think Colbert will have the better show after a year of ironing things out. Fallon will have the ratings because it is the Tonight Show, and for that reason only.
Agree with all that said Conan would have killed it on CBS. I like Conan and think he is the best late night guy out there today, just stuck on TBS. I still tune in from time to time and he is still good.
Agree with all that said Conan would have killed it on CBS. I like Conan and think he is the best late night guy out there today, just stuck on TBS. I still tune in from time to time and he is still good.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:54 am to OMLandshark
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I'm really shocked that Colbert is the first Daily Show alumni to be recruited for a network late night talk show
Uhh...Kilborn?
Posted on 9/9/15 at 12:22 pm to tigerfan88
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I can't believe how many people think the Trump bit was just a straight up "hey everyone look how crazy Trump is har har har." Yes there was a part of that, which admittedly wasn't that funny, but the crux of the bit was how easy a target Trump is and how so many comedians and shows do bits like that even when they know it's stale and unfunny and not good for them, like Oreo's.
Same with the Clooney interview, which was a little clunky at times, but again that was the point. He was mocking all these other shows where guests act like they're best friends with the host when in actuality they've spoken twice before in their entire lives.
Again same with the hummus. Everyone does product placement, but most shows try and do it subtly so you don't realize they're doing it. The whole point was to mock the concept of product placement by being over the top with it, a classic Colbert Report move. Even though he's lost his conservative blowhard schtick, he's clearly not lost his appetite for satire.
All of this. He was satirizing late night talk shows, and attacking the whole system. The Trump bit was the best, as the joke wasn't about Trump, it was about comedians being addicted to empty jokes about Trump. There's a lot of pulling back the curtain here, and the joke is fairly big picture.
However, while I liked what he was going for, the show itself was still a bit uneven. The opening monologue wasn't very good, and Colbert should ditch that and go straight to the desk. Why does he have to monologue? Because Carson did? I think this first episode was long on potential and it shows how great the show can (will?) be, but it is not there yet. It also requires some buy in from the audience, and it's clear he's not going to talk down... he expects the audience to keep up and be in on the joke. This is not lower common denominator stuff, which I really like. But I'm not sure how well a smart, subversive show will actually do on network TV. Ferguson is the closest, but he wrapped it all up in insnae goofiness, which it looks like Colbert won't do...
... there is no candy exterior to make the pill go down easier. I liked it, but more prospectively of what it could be than what it is right now. The seams are still showing.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 12:38 pm to GEAUXmedic
It's his first show, they will be testing things out over the next year (hell, it wasn't until 3 years in when Kevin Eubanks was tapped to become the band leader on the Tonight Show). With that said there are some areas of focus that shone through last night.
1. The Clooney interview. This was awkward and clunky. I understand wanting a big name for the first interview, but have something interesting to talk about with them.
2. The Sabra product placement. I liked the idea, really liked it, but the bit went a little too long. Had he left it at the dip cups I think it would have been okay.
3. The monologue. Not bad but not good either. I see great potential once he can get over his jitters (and he was jittery most of the night, it came through when he would mis-speak).
4. Concept vs. Reality. I get what he was trying to do with the "We don't know each other" bit with Clooney, but it was horribly, horribly flat. Why? Because it's best appeal is its concept. It's like Andy Kaufmann trolling his audience by reading Great Gatsby. It sounds great as a concept, but when you actually see it, it sucks. In the late night show genre if the majority of your audience doesn't "get it" quickly, you've failed.
5. The biggest issue I think he has is: who really is Stephen Colbert? Last night we saw quite a bit of Colbert Report's presentation up until the Jeb interview. I felt like this was the first glimpse at the actual person, sans-character. He needs to focus on that.
All-in-all it wasn't bad for a first show. It was definitely above anything Pat Sajak or Carson Daily did.
1. The Clooney interview. This was awkward and clunky. I understand wanting a big name for the first interview, but have something interesting to talk about with them.
2. The Sabra product placement. I liked the idea, really liked it, but the bit went a little too long. Had he left it at the dip cups I think it would have been okay.
3. The monologue. Not bad but not good either. I see great potential once he can get over his jitters (and he was jittery most of the night, it came through when he would mis-speak).
4. Concept vs. Reality. I get what he was trying to do with the "We don't know each other" bit with Clooney, but it was horribly, horribly flat. Why? Because it's best appeal is its concept. It's like Andy Kaufmann trolling his audience by reading Great Gatsby. It sounds great as a concept, but when you actually see it, it sucks. In the late night show genre if the majority of your audience doesn't "get it" quickly, you've failed.
5. The biggest issue I think he has is: who really is Stephen Colbert? Last night we saw quite a bit of Colbert Report's presentation up until the Jeb interview. I felt like this was the first glimpse at the actual person, sans-character. He needs to focus on that.
All-in-all it wasn't bad for a first show. It was definitely above anything Pat Sajak or Carson Daily did.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:06 pm to GEAUXmedic
I just watched it. Overall it was funny but it did have some awkward moments. He's more on point when it's political. It really did feel like an episode of Late Night with Letterman episode.
He really does need an announcer and the band needs a little more.....structure
He really does need an announcer and the band needs a little more.....structure
This post was edited on 9/9/15 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:31 pm to FairhopeTider
First Late Show with David Letterman 23 million viewers
First Late Show with Stephen Colbert 6.6 million viewers
Woof.
First Late Show with Stephen Colbert 6.6 million viewers
Woof.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:34 pm to The Boat
Yeah you can't really compare the two.
Late Shows on major networks have been dieing for a while.
But add in the numbers of views in Hulu and YouTube for all his bits and I bet you get close.
Late Shows on major networks have been dieing for a while.
But add in the numbers of views in Hulu and YouTube for all his bits and I bet you get close.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:36 pm to Breesus
CBS didn't seem to promote the show much at all. I saw a commercial here and there.
They did a blitzkrieg of commercials and ads in the summer of 1993 before Letterman started. Dave even had a joke in his opening monologue.. talking about CBS's "low key" approach to promoting the show and "this is not a promo this is the actual show."
They did a blitzkrieg of commercials and ads in the summer of 1993 before Letterman started. Dave even had a joke in his opening monologue.. talking about CBS's "low key" approach to promoting the show and "this is not a promo this is the actual show."
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:37 pm to SnoopALoop
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He has taken a whole different approach with the first show and is going for satire. Why is no one else seeing this?
People are stupid. I laughed through the entire first episode.
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