re: Justice League ***SPOILERS*** Thread

I’d argue that Ronan is the only villain in the MCU that fits that description. The rest are pretty fleshed out.

Cyborg I think is largely agreed upon to be the worst part of this team. They should have also done a Green Lantern prequel and gone with John Stewart as the Lantern. Green Lantern historically has been a bigger hero than Thor IMO.

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Cyborg I think is largely agreed upon to be the worst part of this team. They should have also done a Green Lantern prequel and gone with John Stewart as the Lantern. Green Lantern historically has been a bigger hero than Thor IMO.

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Yeah I’m not a comic book guy so I didn’t really know Cyborg. I know the rest from cartoons as a kid. Green Lantern should’ve been the last member but based on the plot of the movie I get why he wasn’t included.

Just got out too, not near as bad as I thought, never been big on Superman but he was much better.

First act was kind of slow, thought we were in trouble when the street thug deduced it was an alien invasion because Superman was dead. Typical Snyder trying to bluntly explain things in case we didn’t get it

Liked the Flash, Cyborg wasn’t as bad as I thought he’d be.

Villain sucked but that’s not an exclusive DC issue. They sure did a shitty job of protecting those mother boxes.

Agree with most that it was rushed so they had to ham fistedly explain back stories

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I get not doing a Batman movie prior to JL. We’ve had a bunch of Batman movies so people pretty much know his story. BvS IMO explains why he is grizzled Batman.

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When the Elfman Batman theme sneaks in, I get a sense of old Keaton Batman, and I like that. That would make this world a little more understandable...

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WW IMO was the only one who really needed a prequel movie since it has been a while since she has really been in the spotlight.

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Wonder Woman, Flash, Cyborg all could have used more buildup. We get the tiniest of hints of Flash with Suicide Squad, but they needed more.

My take on how it should have been done (not the best, but I think it would have been smoother):

Cyborg should have been cyber-lurking all the way back to MoS, almost like a Person of Interest type of deal, monitoring events. You don't see him or know who he is, but see evidence of internet hacking and following, before he steps out of the shadows (would have made the scene in the Batcave more powerful). Show us the occasional video feeds of Superman (clearly a video, so we know someone is watching), anonymous emails to Bruce about things. He could have been trying to tip Bruce off about the Luthor deal in BvS, etc. Bruce would have resisted this anonymous shadow outsider until now, and then approached him without knowing his full backstory (he'd address the message guy on the computer- "I need more than hints, I need help")- and we get Cyborg in response.

Flash- you could have given him some more presence in Suicide Squad, maybe during the Batman vs Joker and Harley Quinn part. Something else maybe, but just give us a hint that there's a speedster out there doing things before this film (and more than just vs Captain Boomerang).

Aquaman, I'm fine with coming in cold... but they should have had Wonder Woman come recruit him. The fire at the Amazon temple would be a signal that the Amazons, in their utmost need, call on their ancient rivals, the Atlanteans. Diana goes as emissary to ask them. You could leave them mysterious and initially cold to the idea of helping out, and Arthur (being an outsider) finally steps up and says he will honor the call, if no other will; and that these "great Atlanteans that look down on him" are so petty that they abandon the rest of the world to spite the Amazons. Let Mera look at him with both anger and admiration as he leaves, after she officially rebuffed Diana "on behalf of Atlantis".

This would give his arrival into the fight more impact, and make us curious about Atlantis and his upcoming movie.

Not perfect maybe, but it wouldn't have been too hard to have shifted things just a little, and make this a bit more coherent.

So if Steppenwolf had to wait on Superman to die to retrieve the boxes (which was done with ease) why didn’t he simply get them in the thousands of years before Superman was on earth?

Saw the movie the other day. Enjoyable, good but not great movie.

Not sure how I feel about the Flash. Did a good job of being the comic foil for the group and conveying the sense of confusion, wonder and hesitation at being suddenly imbued with this amazing power as well as being thrust into this team of legendary heroes. But with the added tidbit that Barry Allen is Jewish (who knew?) I got the feeling when he would exhibit some neurotic behavior that I was watching Woody Allen with footspeed.

With all the discussion of the CGI moustache reshoot scene my question was “Why?” Would the story have suffered or not have advanced without that scene? Why risk losing the audience from the get go by including that obviously awkward visual?

Everybody on here dumps on Snyder for the casting of Luther in BvS (rightfully so). But there is no doubt that the casting selections for the Big 3 on which this universe will live and die he knocked it out of the park. Without dipping into the Aggyish waters of a fellow poster’s admiration of Henry Cavill, it’s not hyperbole to say he he is the best representation of the Man of Steel on film. Reeves included. He embodies both the raw physical power and innate Christ-like purity that the role requires. And Gal Gadot is every much Wonder Woman that HC is Superman. She may not be the greatest actress in the world but when she is on screen she IS Wonder Woman. And for all those cracking on Affleck; well, you’re simply wrong. Best Batman of my lifetime. Finally a physically imposing Batman that you can believe is whipping arse.

There were some nice touches in this movie. The scene between WW and Batman where she tells him he can’t do this forever and he responds self-deprecatingly being one. I think it showed Diana’s respect and admiration for this mere mortal with no special powers still willing to be a warrior at great cost to himself. Unless I was reading too much into the exchange.

The dialogue between Alfred and Bruce where Bruce states that Clark/Superman was a better man than he is I think was an effort by Snyder and DC to address the gripes by the likes of Sentrius/OML and others about Superman being unlikable and too brooding in the previous two movies. My take, anyway.

The things that detracted from this movie that kept it in the good but not great category were more a collection of minor quibbles and annoyances than any one large flaw.

Some good news for JL...

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Warner Bros/DC’s Justice League led all films in regular release with a big Tuesday of $10.6M, up 41% over Monday, for a running cume of $111.9M. The Zack Snyder-directed movie is expected to take in a gross similar to Coco‘s with $60M over the next five days. While critics have strangled Justice League with a 41% Rotten Tomatoes score, audiences are enjoying it with final PostTrak showing a 4-out-of-5-star response with males at 62% enjoying the movie with an 80% overall positive, and females at 38% giving it an 85% grade.

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Was the actor that played the prison guard during the visitation scene (magic marker) the same one that played Jimmy Olsen in the Donner movies?

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I read that he was in a deleted scene where he saved by cyborg. I think its during the fight with Superman.