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James Bond Trapped in an Ugly Stalemate Between Amazon and Broccoli Family

Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:22 am
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:22 am
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Nearly three years after Amazon acquired the right to release Bond movies through its $6.5 billion purchase of the Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studio, the relationship between the family that oversees the franchise and the e-commerce giant has all but collapsed. The decaying partnership has scuttled any near-term hope of a new Bond film—a black eye for Amazon’s ambitions in Hollywood, since at the time of the MGM sale, the Bond franchise represented a significant share of the $6.5 billion the company paid for the studio.

When it comes to Bond’s future, the power lies in the hands of Barbara Broccoli, who inherited the control from her father, Albert “Cubby” Broccoli, and who for 30 years has decided when a new Bond movie can go into production. She has told friends she doesn’t trust algorithm-centric Amazon with a character she helped to mythologize through big-screen storytelling and gut instinct. This fall, she characterized the status of a new movie in dire terms—no script, no story and no new Bond.

To friends, Broccoli has characterized her thoughts on Amazon this way: “These people are f— idiots.”

The two sides are at an impasse: Amazon needs Broccoli to furnish them with ideas for a new Bond movie, but Broccoli doesn’t want to make a new Bond movie with Amazon. The standoff, say people on both sides of the divide, boils down to a clash between the 20th-century Hollywood of big screens and big swings and a new entertainment industry ruled by Silicon Valley firms that prize data, algorithms and streaming subscriptions.

The Broccoli family’s control of James Bond has few comparisons in contemporary Hollywood, where cherished characters are gobbled up by conglomerates eager to exploit them across screens, toy shelves and theme parks. For decades, studio executives have salivated over the chance to do the same with Bond.

It’s a job that has forced her to weather the hot-potato game of studio mergers and consolidations before. Due to the current impasse, the franchise hasn’t moved any closer to its next installment since “No Time to Die” came out in 2021, after a delayed premiere during the pandemic. That’s unusually long for a series that regularly saw releases every year or two starting with “Dr. No” in 1962 and rarely took more than three years off—and it’s a risky lull in today’s crowded entertainment landscape.

Broccoli has complained that Amazon isn’t a good home for Bond, since the company’s core business is selling everything from toilet paper to vacuums—a perspective Amazon executives find unfair. But since she makes the creative calls that come first—script, casting, story—Broccoli can hold Bond hostage from Amazon for as long as she sees fit.


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Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:26 am to
i thought he was dead
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:27 am to
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the company’s core business is selling toilet paper

I concur. That’s where I buy my toilet paper.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:33 am to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:34 am to
Anyone who cares about things British would run from Amazon at light speed and never look back.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:45 am to
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To friends, Broccoli has characterized her thoughts on Amazon this way: “These people are f— idiots.”


Not really shocked given how Amazon fricked up Rings Of Power and other properties.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:48 am to
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When it comes to Bond’s future, the power lies in the hands of Barbara Broccoli
Posted by CatholicLSUDude
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:58 am to
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To friends, Broccoli has characterized her thoughts on Amazon this way: “These people are f— idiots.”


I love this. It’s true of just about everyone making big entertainment these days. Unfortunately for them, their algorithm-centered approach doesn’t lead to high quality products (see Rings of Power). They are trying to make art with arithmetic. It doesn’t work. I’m glad to see anyone trying to stand up to them.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:58 am to
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To friends, Broccoli has characterized her thoughts on Amazon this way: “These people are f— idiots.”


You mean the woman who has done all she can to emasculate Bond as a character and destroy the James Bond mystique is calling others "idiots"?
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:15 am to
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You mean the woman who has done all she can to emasculate Bond as a character and destroy the James Bond mystique is calling others "idiots"?


This. An actual, throwback to the 60's style Bond, in the vein of the first couple seasons of Mad Men would do gangbusters.

A script like that will never see the light of day though. Not in this environment.
Posted by indytiger
Krotz Springs
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:20 am to
A 60’s or earlier period piece bond starring Henry Cavill, just take my money.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:29 am to
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A 60’s or earlier period piece bond starring Henry Cavill, just take my money.

Nah, too simple a concept. Won’t happen.
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:38 am to
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A 60’s or earlier period piece bond starring Henry Cavill, just take my money.


Seriously. All in on this.

He doesnt need to "save the world" per se, either. Show him learning golf, learning baccarat. Learning to charm and throw away women (lol).

There's always a twinge of humor in Bond flicks. you could get some serious mileage out of those situations. And, if along the way, he happens to uncover a plot by a prominent member of the golf club to corner the frozen orange juice market that needs thwarting then all the better

Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:51 am to
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i thought he was dead
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:52 am to
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They are trying to make art with arithmetic.


So DEI is a mathematic principle? An equation told them to girl boss Rings?

Also, isn't Broccoli a DEI warrior that was at least partly responsible for the neutered pos Craig Bond?

Seems to me that they both suck and should turn over Bond to a writer/director who has a sense of humor like James Gunn.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83269 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 10:36 am to
I thought Man from UNCLE was fantastic. Slap a Bond label on that movie and it’s a huge hit. The recipe is there.

But what do I know.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:07 pm to
Good. Don't let Amazon get their claws into James Bond.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33387 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:16 pm to
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It’s true of just about everyone making big entertainment these days.
It's true about people running companies in every industry who were brainwashed by "Communications" training in the 2000's. That training that started with telling your employees there's no place for sarcasm in the office.

We all needed the the education about quid pro quo, but cutting out telling jokes in the office made Jack a dull boy.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31349 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:34 pm to
Amazon has done some nice stuff. And I hated where they went with Craigs Bond after Casino.

I’ve said it before.
1. Offer Henry Cavill whatever he wants
2. Get a script that’s set in the 60’s
3. Make Bond be Bond. Gadgets, girls, great one liners.
4.??????
5. Profit.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22483 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 1:21 pm to
Broccoli hasn’t really been doing a bangup job with the last few movies. Spectre and No Time To Die were shite. Good for her though from preventing Amazon from bastardizing Bond.

Amazon wants to have spin offs and such. What the hell does a “Bond Universe” show look like without James Bond?
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