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re: It's Okay to Like The Force Awakens
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:08 pm to Lake Vegas Tiger
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:08 pm to Lake Vegas Tiger
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rogue one was lightyears better
TFA was indeed a lazy rehash, but Rogue One was particularly awful. worst group of characters ive ever seen. couldnt care less about any of them. forrest whitaker should be ashamed of his performance
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:10 pm to Carson123987
When every character in the movie dies and you literally feel nothing, that's got to be a sign. 
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:11 pm to Lake Vegas Tiger
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It’s a shitty rehash, rogue one was lightyears better
If we want to get picky about it, Rogue One was shitty because of the way they COMPLETELY changed the entire known premise of how the rebels got the plans to the death star in the first place.
AND while were discussing that, can we address the issue of why that guy didn't just send them the plans to the damn thing when he sent a note saying "hey guys the plans for how to destroy this are over here" anyway? I mean seriously , "dear rebels, I built in a way to destroy the death star BUT I've hidden them inside a hardened imperial base I hope you can get to them"
Good Lord, almost as ridiculous as Yoda running away from the Emperor to begin with.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:16 pm to GeauxTigers2020
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When every character in the movie dies and you literally feel nothing, that's got to be a sign
exactly.
poor donnie yen. his poor english must not have clued him in as to how terrible his character's writing was
i cant even remember a single character's name
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:19 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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there is nothing necessary about reusing a death star
As I states in the other thread:
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In Star Wars the Empire and First Order continue to build these weapons because they work. Sure, they only get a limited few uses, but it's a damn hugely effective limited use. They leveled entire cities and planets with the Death Star before the rebels destroyed it. And they damn near destroyed every ship in the rebel fleet with the second one.
In TFA, they literally destroy an entire solar system worth of planets containing the rebellion HQ and the system's sun itself before the rebels stop them.
Why wouldn't they continue to build those weapons?
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:20 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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almost as ridiculous as Yoda running away from the Emperor to begin with.
Do we have to have this fricking conversation again too?
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:27 pm to GeauxTigers2020
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When every character in the movie dies and you literally feel nothing, that's got to be a sign.
Not sure we were supposed to feel much of anything. That was the point, there were no Luke Skywalkers, or Han Solo's in that group. They were just ordinary people who made an extraordinary sacrifice.
That part made total sense to me.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:28 pm to Breesus
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Do we have to have this fricking conversation again too?
I mean if we're going to go there, let's go back even further and ask how one Sith was able to outmaneuver an entire Jedi council. Oh that's right because in reality the Jedis are pussies. There I said it.
Hell I'm not even that sure the Rebels and jedis are the good guys.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:32 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
This thread is really starting to improve lol
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:37 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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That was the point, there were no Luke Skywalkers, or Han Solo's in that group.
he didnt say you needed hero archetypes to make a good movie. you need developed, interesting characters that you can care about. same reason dunkirk sucked, i get what they're going for with the "everyone is an anonymous coat" gig but it sucks for cinema
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:38 pm to GeauxTigers2020
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When every character in the movie dies and you literally feel nothing, that's got to be a sign
That's how I felt about Rogue One as well. I wanted to like it. But when Jyn and everyone died I was just like meh, oh well, where's Darth Vader?
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:42 pm to GeauxTigers2020
The Force Awakens is better and has better rewatch value than Rogue One.
The only reason people like Rogue One is because of the awesome Vader scene. Take that out the movie and it would have been a snoozer.
The only reason people like Rogue One is because of the awesome Vader scene. Take that out the movie and it would have been a snoozer.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:42 pm to WicKed WayZ
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That's how I felt about Rogue One as well. I wanted to like it. But when Jyn and everyone died I was just like meh, oh well, where's Darth Vader?
Again, it seems that is what they were going for. Why develop characters that are just going to die off? I mean remember they just killed of Han Solo , Leia has to go soon, and Luke can't last forever. Hell C3P0 has to be a rust bucket by now, can't have fans getting emotionally wrapped up in every character lol
For example, did you cry In Return of the Jedi when any ewoks died? Nope. No one did.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:47 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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how one Sith was able to outmaneuver an entire Jedi council
I think that was kind of the point of them in the prequels.
The Jedi had grown fat and complacent and lazy and bureaucratic.
And it wasn't just one some Sith rando. It was one of the most powerful and most cunning guys alive. And his name was Jar Jar Binks and he's the true sith master throughout the entire prequel trilogy slowly poisening and manipulating everyone. It's real. Go research it.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:47 pm to BaddestAndvari
I liked both TFA and Rogue One. I don't see what the problem is.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:48 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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did you cry In Return of the Jedi when any ewoks died? Nope. No one did.
1. That's a shitty comparison.
And 2. Imagine how much better that movie would be if Ewoks didn't exist and they were all Wookies.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:51 pm to Breesus
I actually have thought about that, but I still think it is avoidable.
You can still have a villain that is dangerous without that type of weapon. You could create a world where rebuilding such a weapon is very difficult, so that would explain why it hasn't been done again, and so on.
Alternatively, you just have to accept that the originally trilogy wasn't supposed to be added on to. Lucas created the scariest weapon he could which makes sense. He probably wouldn't have done that if he had been planning 9 movies. Since, as we are all seeing now, if you have a later weapon that isn't as destructive, without good writing the audience is just going to yawn, so you go back to using the same scary weapon.
You can still have a villain that is dangerous without that type of weapon. You could create a world where rebuilding such a weapon is very difficult, so that would explain why it hasn't been done again, and so on.
Alternatively, you just have to accept that the originally trilogy wasn't supposed to be added on to. Lucas created the scariest weapon he could which makes sense. He probably wouldn't have done that if he had been planning 9 movies. Since, as we are all seeing now, if you have a later weapon that isn't as destructive, without good writing the audience is just going to yawn, so you go back to using the same scary weapon.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:52 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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you just have to accept that the originally trilogy wasn't supposed to be added on to. Lucas created the scariest weapon he could which makes sense. He probably wouldn't have done that if he had been planning 9 movies.
What makes you think that? He did it twice in 3 movies.
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You can still have a villain that is dangerous without that type of weapon.
Sure. But that weapon adds a hell of alot of fear and danger.
Look at real life and consider the death star a nuclear bomb. Expensive and you only get one use but everyone wants one.
Now think about scary leaders.
Kim Jong and his kid - scary lunatics with giant armies.
Give them a capable and active nuclear weapon and delivery system? fricking nightmare for this world.
Imagine if Hitler had an active nuclear arsenal. It makes a terrifying villain a hell of alot more terrifying.
Look at the consequences of using it.
Before America dropped that bomb and after America dropped that bomb are fundamentally different periods in world history.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:55 pm to Breesus
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And 2. Imagine how much better that movie would be if Ewoks didn't exist and they were all Wookies.
Or at least imagine if there had been an Wookie Jedi around. That would be one bad arse character.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:55 pm to Breesus
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What makes you think that? He did it twice in 3 movies.
It makes sense because the same entity is still in existence the second time he used it.
I think if he was making 9 movies and the enemy organization changes/time passes, I just doubt he would have put himself in that corner, saving if for later in the series. He would be making his life harder for no reason by having it earlier in the series.
The two in a row work well when the OT is taking by itself. However, each time you trot out a death star for movies on and on it would become less effective as a plot device.
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