re: It's Okay to Like The Force Awakens

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Look at real life and consider the death star a nuclear bomb. Expensive and you only get one use but everyone wants one. Now think about scary leaders. Kim Jong and his kid - scary lunatics with giant armies. Give them a capable and active nuclear weapon and delivery system? fricking nightmare for this world. Imagine if Hitler had an active nuclear arsenal. It makes a terrifying villain a hell of alot more terrifying.

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Again, while it makes sense to reuse a super weapon and compare to nukes, it is being used by the writers because it is easy to convey fear with that.


Let me give you a real world example. 9/11. Not a nuke.
That's what I'm getting at. Creative writing could have drummed up a plausible scenario that is very fearful without using the super weapon.

I'm not saying it doesn't work as a plot device, I'm saying it wasn't necessary. Which someone else said it was. While I liked the movie, I just don't buy how much they had to reuse for "familiarity" and to "introduce Star Wars to a new generation".

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I'm not saying it doesn't work as a plot device, I'm saying it wasn't necessary. Which someone else said it was.

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Yeah that I can agree with.

However 9/11 is so brutal because we cared about all the people in those buildings and they were real and they were American.

If in Star wars a sith guy flew a plane into Jedi HQ, it wouldn't be as effective. Because we aren't Jedi, and we don't care about a few faceless nonexistent bureaucratic characters in a fictional building.

In a movie, especially a crafted universe where people galaxy jump all the time, perhaps the most efficient way to build fear is to do it on a massive scale. Ramping up the scale conveys fear that is otherwise much harder to get across without some serious character development.

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And it wasn't just one some Sith rando. It was one of the most powerful and most cunning guys alive. And his name was Jar Jar Binks and he's the true sith master throughout the entire prequel trilogy slowly poisening and manipulating everyone. It's real.

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For those who are not #woke to JarJar allow me to begin your journey down the rabbit hole that begins a whole new appreciation for the amazingness of the prequels:
more detailed and expanded discussion of JarJar's force usage and ability throughout the prequels

LINK

Seriously everyone should watch that video. At minimum the last 3 minutes of the second video, and then we can discuss the amazing and unbelievable wasted talent and God-tier level twist that would've been if JarJar was revealed as the anti-yoda like he should've been.

This amazing turn was even supposed to take place at the end of the second movie and leave you with a what in the holy frick I can't believe that just happened feeling as you walked doubt the theater for a new generation like Empire did for the last generation.

At the end of Clone Wars Yoda should've fought JarJar after a badass reveal, then everything else plays out the same. JarJar escapes while Yoda saves Obi-Wan and Anikan kills JarJar at the beginning of Revenge after he "kidnaps" Palpatine. Dooku was never supposed to exist.

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The only things I didn't like about it were the Rathtar scene and I felt the 3rd act with the Starkiller base was a little forced and rushed.

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This I agree with. That planning phase shouldve been more serious and better written and approached instead of hurrhurr there's always a way to blow it up hurrhurr let's just find an exhaust hatch. That was almost criminal campy fourth wall breaking for no reason and it takes me out the movie every time I watch it. It broke the tension in the film and really bothered me.

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This I agree with. That planning phase shouldve been more serious and better written and approached instead of hurrhurr there's always a way to blow it up hurrhurr let's just find an exhaust hatch. That was almost criminal campy fourth wall breaking for no reason and it takes me out the movie every time I watch it.

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Or just skip the planning altogether and let the viewer just assume some planning went into the attack.

I like TFA and actually like Rouge One more than TFA.

I didn’t know shite about anything that happened before A New Hope so I enjoyed it. I own both of the new films and the only one I've watched more than once is Rouge One.

Scarif is probably the most memorable planet, at least to me, in the entire franchise. Place was beautiful.

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Scarif is probably the most memorable planet, at least to me, in the entire franchise. Place was beautiful.

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Funny enough while watching that I said to myself. "looks like the Maldives."

Ended up being the Maldives.

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If we want to get picky about it, Rogue One was shitty because of the way they COMPLETELY changed the entire known premise of how the rebels got the plans to the death star in the first place

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Is this about the Bothans again? Because that was for the other Death Star.

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was it just me or was Chirrut more annoying than Jar Jar Binks and the ewoks combined?

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I'll have to disagree with you there.

Chirrut's storm trooper fight scene ( LINK) was one of my favorite scenes in the movie.

Proof that JarJar is a misunderstood genius and we were all robbed of something that may have redeemed the entire Prequel Trilogy and rivaled the "I am your father" moment.

ETA:moved to the new thread so as not to clutter this one.