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It's a Wonderful Life and The Family Man
Posted on 12/9/22 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 12/9/22 at 5:56 pm
It's a Wonderful Life and The Family Man. Two sides of a coin with the same moral:
It's a Wonderful Life -
No man is a failure who has friends and family.
The Family Man -
No man is a success without friends and family.
Two of my absolute favorite movies. I will search them out to watch them at this time of the year. Great messages, great stories.
And it's impossible not to love Donna Reed and Téa Leoni.
It's a Wonderful Life -
No man is a failure who has friends and family.
The Family Man -
No man is a success without friends and family.
Two of my absolute favorite movies. I will search them out to watch them at this time of the year. Great messages, great stories.
And it's impossible not to love Donna Reed and Téa Leoni.
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Posted on 12/9/22 at 7:02 pm to Salviati
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And it's impossible not to love Donna Reed and Téa Leoni.
Their characters.
They're perfectly designed to make the man look like a fool.
For not knowing how great he has it.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 12/9/22 at 7:13 pm to Salviati
Donna is one of the few who makes Téa pedestrian.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 7:13 pm to Salviati
The Family Man makes me much sadder knowing that his kids were never real. I always tear up at the end. 
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:13 pm to grimmrimmer
Such great movies, family man is much more a must watch for me, the bittersweet ending gets me every time.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 9:00 pm to Salviati
Damn, I had forgotten all about The Family Man. Even as a kid, that movie got me. Can't imagine what it will be like seeing it as an adult.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 9:22 pm to Salviati
Never really liked the Family Man. I hate the false idea that his only choices are to be super successful but alone with an “empty” life or if he got married and had kids he’s stuck in a dead end mediocre job. Like he can’t be successful and have a family, lots of people, especially smart ambitious ones can get married and have kids and work on Wall Street and not be stuck at a discount broker in Jersey 
This post was edited on 12/11/22 at 12:18 am
Posted on 12/9/22 at 9:55 pm to H-Town Tiger
SPOILERS
Second, the glimpse life has to by bouyed solely by family and friends to show their value. He can't be financially successful too. If he is successful financially and with family and friends, it doesn't demonstrate the true value of family and friends. Rather, the family might just be frosting on the financially successful cake.
Third, we don't know what happened to Jack and his job when the glimpse ends. He doesn't fly to Denver to help close the biggest deal the company has ever had. Lassiter will probably fire him, but we don't know what happens to him. He has lots of options. Certainly, he's not going to go sell tires.
quote:First, those two views are not his only choices. Those are just the two views they showed: (A) his life, and (B) the glimpse.
I hate the false idea that his only choices are to be super successful but alone with an “empty” life or if he got married and had kids he’s stuck in a dead end mediocre job. Like he can’t be successful and have a family, lots of people, especially smart ambitious ones can get married and have kids and work on Wall Street and not be stuck at a discount broker in Jersey
Second, the glimpse life has to by bouyed solely by family and friends to show their value. He can't be financially successful too. If he is successful financially and with family and friends, it doesn't demonstrate the true value of family and friends. Rather, the family might just be frosting on the financially successful cake.
Third, we don't know what happened to Jack and his job when the glimpse ends. He doesn't fly to Denver to help close the biggest deal the company has ever had. Lassiter will probably fire him, but we don't know what happens to him. He has lots of options. Certainly, he's not going to go sell tires.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:53 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Like he can’t be successful and have a family, lots of people, especially smart ambitious ones can get married and have kids and work on Wall Street and not be stuck at a discount broker in Jersey
I think the movie literally covered that.
He had the opportunity in the glimpse to take his real job. Teas reaction is that that would involve either up rooting their family and kids from their current life and completely changing their lifestyle which would make things completely different and also further away from her dad. Or for him to commute which means he would never see them.
To your point yes some people can have a successful job in Manhattan and a family.
However what the movie points out is what makes glimpse version Tea happy and the kids happy doesn’t mesh with being in downtown Manhattan. Not an uncommon thing in real life either. Or else there would be no farmers. No small towns etc
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 7:57 am
Posted on 12/10/22 at 12:33 pm to Salviati
This thread inspired me to watch The Family Man last night. It really is a great movie. Cage is perfect for that role. His tendency to over-act is perfect for man in freak out mode.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 12:37 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I hate the false idea that his only choices are to be super successful but alone with an “empty” life or if he got married and had kids he’s stuck in a dead end mediocre job. Like he can’t be successful and have a family,
I don’t see it that way. In fact I assume from the ending that they probably end up with a kind of combination of his professional life and his glimpse life.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 4:33 pm to grimmrimmer
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The Family Man makes me much sadder knowing that his kids were never real. I always tear up at the end.
First saw this movie before we had our first son, and I enjoyed it but the ending didn't move me a ton.
Saw it again after both of our boys were born, and the ending was like a giant gut punch...and I sort of remembered it was coming.
Had the same feeling watching Star Trek TNG's episode The Inner Light where Picard lives and entire lifetime in his mind so that he can know about an alien civilization that had perished eons before. Just brutal having glimpsed or lived a different life, only to have it taken away. Much more impactful once you have a husband/wife and kids to lose.
Posted on 12/11/22 at 12:29 am to arktiger28
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I don’t see it that way.
So what was the point of his glimpse life? Why was his “assumed” life as a smuck working thee equivalent of selling Lady Kennmore dryers at Sears?
quote:
To your point yes some people can have a successful job in Manhattan and a family. However what the movie points out is what makes glimpse version Tea happy and the kids happy doesn’t mesh with being in downtown Manhattan. Not an uncommon thing in real life either. Or else there would be no farmers. No small towns etc
Your comment here is basically my point. The movie basically assumes there is only one way to be happy about which is nonsense. Someone can be a high level Wall Street guy and have a family and be happy someone else can be a farmer and be happy. Being “happy” isn’t a zero sum game
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