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re: Is Jefferey Wright’s “Commisioner Gordon” been the only acceptable DEI/woke hire?
Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:58 am to Handsome Pete
Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:58 am to Handsome Pete
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BS. It's the role. Jeffrey Wright is great in a supporting role as Commissioner Gordon, but would you be OK with any black actor playing Batman? Even a young Denzel or Will Smith in their prime? This board would have a stroke. Color blind casting is only acceptable here if the roll isn't that important. Don't pat yourself on the back for letting Idris play Heimdall. Let him play Thor, then we'll see.
Color blind casting isn't a thing.
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:29 am to Handsome Pete
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It's not the race, it's the actor.quote:
BS. It's the role. Jeffrey Wright is great in a supporting role as Commissioner Gordon, but would you be OK with any black actor playing Batman?
We just had a lengthy duplicate of this thread ( race/gender swap casting that worked ). The consensus seemed to be that when it's a great actor (Denzel, Freeman), people are fine overlooking the race swap. If they're just dropping in a random black actress to play Black Canary, it comes across as pointless and lazy. There was pie-in-the-sky talk of Denzel and Giancarlo Esposito playing Xavier and Magneto. Would that have changed one of the character's current history? Yeah. Would I have watched it? frick yeah.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:57 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Would that have changed one of the character's current history? Yeah.
At some point soon they will need to do this if they keep rebooting them, which we all know they will. You’d be pushing 90 to have any memory of the Holocaust at this point. It’s either more period pieces or an updated backstory.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 10:01 am to Esquire
quote:The Holocaust angle was an add-on from the 80's. It wasn't a part of Magneto's original history. Now, it's an amazing addition if you're cementing someone as an anti-hero, but even then it was dating the character.
At some point soon they will need to do this if they keep rebooting them, which we all know they will. You’d be pushing 90 to have any memory of the Holocaust at this point. It’s either more period pieces or an updated backstory.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 10:39 am to Fewer Kilometers
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The consensus seemed to be that when it's a great actor (Denzel, Freeman), people are fine overlooking the race swap.
Yeah, there's some truth to that. Most people would've been fine with Idris Elba playing Bond. But give it to a lesser known black actor and the internet would go nuts.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 11:41 am to Proximo
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Denzel Washington. Pick a role.
It's not the race, it's the actor.
uhhhh. right
Gladiator: Training Day
Imagine any nom black dude trying to play alonzo harris.
fricking rick moranis wouldve made a better Macrinus.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 1:15 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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Color blind casting isn't a thing.
Exactly. Every aspect of an actor is considered when selecting them for a role; skin color isn't magically an exception.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 1:18 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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The Holocaust angle was an add-on from the 80's. It wasn't a part of Magneto's original history. Now, it's an amazing addition if you're cementing someone as an anti-hero, but even then it was dating the character.
I had no idea. I had assumed since it’s so prevalent in the movies and new show that it was always his backstory.
Good thing they did that switch in the 80s because it would be woke to do it now.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 6/3/26 at 1:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Or Sam Jackson playing Nick Fury
or Idris Elba playing Heimdal
Posted on 6/3/26 at 2:12 pm to finchmeister08
Speaking of Jeffrey Wright, Bernie Casey played Felix Leiter in the non-Eon Never Say Never Again (a Thunderball remake, bringing back Connery to stick it to Broccoli and company), all the way back in 1983. At that point, Leiter was never played by the same actor twice, or at least it seemed (David Hedison did come back for the role in 1989's Licence to Kill, after being the 5th Leiter in Moore's first, Live and Let Die(1973)).
Basically the throwaway American agent, it was a generic American role in the films going back to Jack Lord in a pre-Hawaii Five-O appearance in 1962's Dr. No, only Hedison had portrayed the character twice before Wright's troika of appearances opposite Daniel Craig.
Basically the throwaway American agent, it was a generic American role in the films going back to Jack Lord in a pre-Hawaii Five-O appearance in 1962's Dr. No, only Hedison had portrayed the character twice before Wright's troika of appearances opposite Daniel Craig.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 6/3/26 at 2:22 pm to Gusoline
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Imagine any nom black dude trying to play alonzo harris.
Imagine anyone other than Michael Chiklis playing Vic Mackey.
(I say this only because Training Day and The Shield share the same source material - source material that is non-fiction.)
So:
The real officers?
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 2:24 pm
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