- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Is Jefferey Wright’s “Commisioner Gordon” been the only acceptable DEI/woke hire?
Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:58 am to Handsome Pete
Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:58 am to Handsome Pete
quote:
BS. It's the role. Jeffrey Wright is great in a supporting role as Commissioner Gordon, but would you be OK with any black actor playing Batman? Even a young Denzel or Will Smith in their prime? This board would have a stroke. Color blind casting is only acceptable here if the roll isn't that important. Don't pat yourself on the back for letting Idris play Heimdall. Let him play Thor, then we'll see.
Color blind casting isn't a thing.
1
Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:29 am to Handsome Pete
quote:
It's not the race, it's the actor.quote:
BS. It's the role. Jeffrey Wright is great in a supporting role as Commissioner Gordon, but would you be OK with any black actor playing Batman?
We just had a lengthy duplicate of this thread ( race/gender swap casting that worked ). The consensus seemed to be that when it's a great actor (Denzel, Freeman), people are fine overlooking the race swap. If they're just dropping in a random black actress to play Black Canary, it comes across as pointless and lazy. There was pie-in-the-sky talk of Denzel and Giancarlo Esposito playing Xavier and Magneto. Would that have changed one of the character's current history? Yeah. Would I have watched it? frick yeah.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:57 am to Fewer Kilometers
quote:
Would that have changed one of the character's current history? Yeah.
At some point soon they will need to do this if they keep rebooting them, which we all know they will. You’d be pushing 90 to have any memory of the Holocaust at this point. It’s either more period pieces or an updated backstory.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 10:01 am to Esquire
quote:The Holocaust angle was an add-on from the 80's. It wasn't a part of Magneto's original history. Now, it's an amazing addition if you're cementing someone as an anti-hero, but even then it was dating the character.
At some point soon they will need to do this if they keep rebooting them, which we all know they will. You’d be pushing 90 to have any memory of the Holocaust at this point. It’s either more period pieces or an updated backstory.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 10:39 am to Fewer Kilometers
quote:
The consensus seemed to be that when it's a great actor (Denzel, Freeman), people are fine overlooking the race swap.
Yeah, there's some truth to that. Most people would've been fine with Idris Elba playing Bond. But give it to a lesser known black actor and the internet would go nuts.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 11:41 am to Proximo
quote:
Denzel Washington. Pick a role.
It's not the race, it's the actor.
uhhhh. right
Gladiator: Training Day
Imagine any nom black dude trying to play alonzo harris.
fricking rick moranis wouldve made a better Macrinus.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 1:15 pm to Saint Alfonzo
quote:
Color blind casting isn't a thing.
Exactly. Every aspect of an actor is considered when selecting them for a role; skin color isn't magically an exception.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 1:18 pm to Fewer Kilometers
quote:
The Holocaust angle was an add-on from the 80's. It wasn't a part of Magneto's original history. Now, it's an amazing addition if you're cementing someone as an anti-hero, but even then it was dating the character.
I had no idea. I had assumed since it’s so prevalent in the movies and new show that it was always his backstory.
Good thing they did that switch in the 80s because it would be woke to do it now.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 6/3/26 at 1:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Or Sam Jackson playing Nick Fury
or Idris Elba playing Heimdal
Posted on 6/3/26 at 2:12 pm to finchmeister08
Speaking of Jeffrey Wright, Bernie Casey played Felix Leiter in the non-Eon Never Say Never Again (a Thunderball remake, bringing back Connery to stick it to Broccoli and company), all the way back in 1983. At that point, Leiter was never played by the same actor twice, or at least it seemed (David Hedison did come back for the role in 1989's Licence to Kill, after being the 5th Leiter in Moore's first, Live and Let Die(1973)).
Basically the throwaway American agent, it was a generic American role in the films going back to Jack Lord in a pre-Hawaii Five-O appearance in 1962's Dr. No, only Hedison had portrayed the character twice before Wright's troika of appearances opposite Daniel Craig.
Basically the throwaway American agent, it was a generic American role in the films going back to Jack Lord in a pre-Hawaii Five-O appearance in 1962's Dr. No, only Hedison had portrayed the character twice before Wright's troika of appearances opposite Daniel Craig.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 6/3/26 at 2:22 pm to Gusoline
quote:
Imagine any nom black dude trying to play alonzo harris.
Imagine anyone other than Michael Chiklis playing Vic Mackey.
(I say this only because Training Day and The Shield share the same source material - source material that is non-fiction.)
So:
The real officers?
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 6/3/26 at 6:04 pm to RLDSC FAN
I think it also has to do with how much the race or look is linked to the role itself. People being upset with Helen of Troy being black see because she is explicitly described in such a way.
Ariel in the little mermaid? Her look defined her character in the original Disney film.
Bond is a Scot, so it is a big deal.
Others claiming certain actors can make it okay such as Denzel, but most people thought Denzel as Hannibal was and is ridiculous because it is a historic piece not purely fiction. It’s based on a real person.
Ariel in the little mermaid? Her look defined her character in the original Disney film.
Bond is a Scot, so it is a big deal.
Others claiming certain actors can make it okay such as Denzel, but most people thought Denzel as Hannibal was and is ridiculous because it is a historic piece not purely fiction. It’s based on a real person.
Posted on 6/3/26 at 6:07 pm to Esquire
quote:
had no idea. I had assumed since it’s so prevalent in the movies and new show that it was always his backstory.
It was added later but both Magneto and Professor X are modeled on utterly disgusting human beings, which is the irony. They were used as political fodder and propaganda to try and win people over to certain views.
Adding in the backstories was done explicitly for that.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 6:41 am to Esquire
quote:
Good thing they did that switch in the 80s because it would be woke to do it now.
If they did it now Ivy League liberal arts majors and PNW purple hairs would protest at theaters that the movie was promoting "muh Zionism!" and the "genocide" in Gaza.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 7:53 am to Geauxgurt
quote:
but most people thought Denzel as Hannibal was and is ridiculous
I think that describes a lot more people than those who are actually upset. I don't care if someone wants to make a black Little Mermaid or a white Roots but don't pretend it isn't exactly what it is. It may be good, it may suck but everybody knows it was a deliberate decision based on race.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:07 am to Brosef Stalin
quote:
No one complained about Lando playing black Harvey Dent but dei/woke wasn't a thing back then
In the novella “Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption” the narrator and prison smuggler Red is a middle aged white Irish guy. In the movie that character was played by Morgan Freeman
Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:29 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:
In the novella “Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption” the narrator and prison smuggler Red is a middle aged white Irish guy. In the movie that character was played by Morgan Freeman
Forget asking how many read the book, how many people who watched Shawshank at the theater even knew it was based on a Stephen King story unless his name was on a promotional poster?
Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:59 am to Fewer Kilometers
quote:
It's not the race, it's the actor.
like the bitch who played Snow WHITE?
or the black Anne Boleyn?
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:47 am to finchmeister08
When you're not familiar with the source material it's much easier to accept race/sex swapping.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 10:14 am to finchmeister08
You could also add Jeffrey Wright as Peoples Hernandez in Shaft. That was my first time seeing him in a movie and I really thought he was Dominican or Puerto Rican.
Page 2 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News