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re: Is it just me or has writing/acting on network television become absolutely awful?
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:19 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:19 pm to Ace Midnight
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merit/writing talent is a lower priority for hiring in Hollywood
I suspect that the scripted network shows are paying less for quality writers, and maybe even using AI to pad some of the scripts. The goal at this point is to find a show theme or format that works (pulls in consistent viewers) and then turn the writing over to the lowest cost option possible. A whole lot of cut and paste going on.
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:21 pm to MorbidTheClown
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it's tough having to tip toe around everyone's feelings.
Oh Yeah man, the only thing I go to network TV for is edgy content
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:29 pm to RollTide1987
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Is it just me or has writing/acting on network television become absolutely awful?
The only network show I watch now is The Rookie because my wife and I are huge fans of Nathan Fillion. S3 was rough though (the one with Brandon Routh appearing in a few episodes as an insanely racist cop, which was just so hard to believe as I just kept hearing Superman be racist).
It's gotten into that "so many seasons the plots are getting absurd" level though. It's a bit nuts.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:33 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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ABC has been pushing that genius trailer trash wench show non-stop during football games. It looks to be record levels of bad.
And it's Sweet Dee from Always Sunny. I love her in Always Sunny and she's a good side character in Hacks on HBO, but I can't imagine her playing a genius.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:42 pm to RollTide1987
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New Amsterdam
The only thing I know about this show is this
But I would agree. Broadcast tv is absolute garbage and has been since House and LOST ended. This is Us (NBC) is the only broadcast show to be nominated for Best Drama (Emmy's) since 2014
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:46 pm to drizztiger
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The Good Place
Brings up a good point... there are some hidden gems that emerge years after the fact on streaming. The Good Place and Evil are two I've watched recently that I enjoyed, but I had not heard a thing about them until they showed up on Netflix.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:27 pm to wildtigercat93
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Oh Yeah man, the only thing I go to network TV for is edgy content
it's not even about edgy. it's about having the right mixture of characters. can't make fun of anyone. have to be careful about what jokes are allowed. what subjects are allowed. and so on.
ETA: but, yeah the writing does suck.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:36 pm to Bama Bird
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New Amsterdam
Sweet Lord...they put that on air.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:39 pm to Bama Bird
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New Amsterdam
The only thing I know about this show is this
the white guy in the pic is a gay psychiatrist.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:41 pm to SUB
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Good network TV shows are pretty much dead. Kind of crazy when you think about how dominant they were at putting out quality stuff, up until about 10 years ago.
I think it’s because they have to have commercials. Streaming and HBO have a massive advantage with that. Can’t remember the last show I watched “live” where I had to fight through commercials.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:43 pm to RollTide1987
We watch Ghosts (which isn’t nearly as good as the BBC Ghosts, but it’s still funny) and Tracker. Tracker is decent enough for a 42 minute show. It’s nothing spectacular though.
I thought This is Us was good. Although it did slip and slid its way into the last couple of seasons and had some genuine “my arse” moments that any decent writer could have prevented.
We’re going to give High Potential and Georgie and Mandie a shot also.
I thought This is Us was good. Although it did slip and slid its way into the last couple of seasons and had some genuine “my arse” moments that any decent writer could have prevented.
We’re going to give High Potential and Georgie and Mandie a shot also.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 7:56 pm to RollTide1987
I haven’t watched a network tv show in I don’t know how long. It’s been many many years.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:18 pm to RollTide1987
Only network tv I watch is from Britain or Ireland. Sometimes Australia. US is garbage. Has been for decades.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:21 pm to YNWA
I, for one, can't wait for the new golden bachelorette and Nash bridges as a ship captain
Posted on 9/17/24 at 10:11 pm to sqerty
Children Ruin Everything on CW is great but I'm not sure it counts since it's a Canadian show that they acquired the rights to air in the US. Season 4 is airing in Canada now and will air on CW here later in the year.
Run the Burbs was another acquired Canadian show I like that was on CW but CBC canceled it recently so no more episodes after season 3 airs here.
So Help Me Todd on CBS was also ok but it got canceled after two seasons as well.
Run the Burbs was another acquired Canadian show I like that was on CW but CBC canceled it recently so no more episodes after season 3 airs here.
So Help Me Todd on CBS was also ok but it got canceled after two seasons as well.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 9/18/24 at 5:12 am to RollTide1987
We hate-watched the last few seasons of The Goldbergs to finish it off, and now we have no network shows in the rotation.
I see the promos for network shows during football games and think they look like SNL or 30 Rock joke commercials of made-up shows.
We're turning into my parents, watching several PBS series on Masterpiece Theater from the UK, plus other PBS shows from France, The Netherlands, and Australia. Also watch several HBO and other cable/streaming shows.
I see the promos for network shows during football games and think they look like SNL or 30 Rock joke commercials of made-up shows.
We're turning into my parents, watching several PBS series on Masterpiece Theater from the UK, plus other PBS shows from France, The Netherlands, and Australia. Also watch several HBO and other cable/streaming shows.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 5:56 am to Twenty 49
Yeah it looks like they’ve just given up
“Ok ok so let’s do a show where this person is a genius but helps the cops solve murders…”
“That’s been done”
“Ok how about she’s also a cleaning lady and a single mom…”
“Eh frick it put it on the air”
That luxury cruise doctor show also looks like a huge piece of shite
“Ok ok so let’s do a show where this person is a genius but helps the cops solve murders…”
“That’s been done”
“Ok how about she’s also a cleaning lady and a single mom…”
“Eh frick it put it on the air”
That luxury cruise doctor show also looks like a huge piece of shite
Posted on 9/18/24 at 7:28 am to RollTide1987
It's crazy how for most of the last century network TV was probably the most popular and widely common entertainment medium but over the last 20 years it's now become a complete after thought. I think the last network show I watched was Community.
Any good ideas or talent aren't gonna be wasted on network TV. Thus it's job is basically cheap, leftover, filler.
Any good ideas or talent aren't gonna be wasted on network TV. Thus it's job is basically cheap, leftover, filler.
This post was edited on 9/18/24 at 7:29 am
Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:58 am to RollTide1987
I think there are several factors at play here:
1. Broadcast shows have a pretty rigid format, particularly with respect to length and commercial breaks. There’s not a lot of room for deviation, which can limit creativity to an extent.
2. Broadcast television falls under stricter FCC requirements (unless this has changed) than cable. This means that mature subject matter often fits better on cable or streaming.
3. Broadcast TV shows hit a much larger market than cable or streaming shows, which means they’re written for universal appeal. Sometimes this means dumbing things down for the lowest common denominator of audience, as well as avoiding risks.
4. Viewing habits are much different for broadcast TV than streaming and (to a lesser extent) cable. If you look at the most successful broadcast shows, most of them are sitcoms, reality TV, or procedurals. They’re built for casual viewing. Shows like Lost are the exception, rather than the rule.
The end result is that nowadays, the more creative content is going to go to cable networks or streaming.
1. Broadcast shows have a pretty rigid format, particularly with respect to length and commercial breaks. There’s not a lot of room for deviation, which can limit creativity to an extent.
2. Broadcast television falls under stricter FCC requirements (unless this has changed) than cable. This means that mature subject matter often fits better on cable or streaming.
3. Broadcast TV shows hit a much larger market than cable or streaming shows, which means they’re written for universal appeal. Sometimes this means dumbing things down for the lowest common denominator of audience, as well as avoiding risks.
4. Viewing habits are much different for broadcast TV than streaming and (to a lesser extent) cable. If you look at the most successful broadcast shows, most of them are sitcoms, reality TV, or procedurals. They’re built for casual viewing. Shows like Lost are the exception, rather than the rule.
The end result is that nowadays, the more creative content is going to go to cable networks or streaming.
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:25 pm to BilJ
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That luxury cruise doctor show also looks like a huge piece of shite
The Love Boat meets Grey's Anatomy
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