re: Infinity war reaction and SPOILERS thread

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gamora is coming back.

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she's in avengers 4 but that could easily be as a vision of Thanos in the soul stone realm, wouldn't say she's a lock

her death was more about showing Thanos did have to endure personal sacrifice to achieve what he thought he was right. So whether she comes back or not is irrelevant to me at least

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Best scenes in the movie:

1. Thanos/Gamora and the Soul Stone
2. Peter Parker Dying in Tony's arms
3. Everyone else Dying
4. The Scotland fight
5. Thanos Enters Wakanda
6. Thor saves Wakanda

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7. Drax standing still

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vision is done as well

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He exists as a uniform, white or colorless version in the comics. Being that he lost his color when the stone was removed, I wouldn't be surprised if the wakandans fix him and he stays this shade.

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The only difference in Spider-Man's death and the other temporary deaths in IW was that Spider-Man's spider-sense seemed to give him a precognition and a few more moments of fear (and time to vocalize it to Iron Man). We're still dealing with a film with a time resetting machine and a character that has already been announced to appear in future films.

I really don't care if you hate Superman or Cavill or Snyder or whatever. The Superman character died a heroic death in BvS and this board's main dismissal of that moment was that Superman was obviously coming back from that death. IW is a great superhero movie, but its temporary deaths are as transparent as in any other superhero movie or comic that uses that trope.

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You answered my question. YOu are just being retarded to be retarded.

I like Superman, and i like Cavill.
WHat we are talking about here really has nothign to do with the fact that they both died. It's how the movie, and previous movies made you feel about them, and how other characters felt about them, and how they felt about other characters that made the Spiderman scene emotional, and the Superman scene forgetable.
Superman stabs big dude, big dude takes forever to die for some reason, and stabs superman back with somethign that wasn't kyrptonite, which i didn't even know was possible. Not a word was said by Superman when he died. What was the purpose of him dying? was it really necessary to kill him to have the justice league formed? Why didn't Marvel do that with Iron Man in The Avengers? They could have let him die in space saving the world, but they didn't.

Spiderman dies in the arms of his father figure telling him he's sorry, and that he's not ready to go, and acts like any other kid would when they know they are about to die. The character actually has emotions being seen on screen.

So are you really that retarded that you can't see the difference, or are you just playing a stupid persona on the internet and you just refuse to acknowledge it?

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Also, Drax was probably at his all time best in this movie.

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Agreed, he fell off from guardians 1 to 2, but came back strong in this one

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1. Thanos/Gamora and the Soul Stone
2. Peter Parker Dying in Tony's arms
3. Everyone else Dying
4. The Scotland fight
5. Thanos Enters Wakanda
6. Thor saves Wakanda

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I think Thor landing on Wakanda was my favorite scene. So badass

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To add to this, the scene at the very end when a young Gamora asked Thanos "what did it cost?" and he replied, "everything."

And the way he delivered that line was just incredible. His voice was filled with loss and regret. So emotional. He really is the GOAT comic book movie villain.

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You answered my question. YOu are just being retarded to be retarded.

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Keep repeating "retarded". It's really helping your case.

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Superman stabs big dude, big dude takes forever to die for some reason, and stabs superman back with somethign that wasn't kyrptonite, which i didn't even know was possible.

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If anyone is being intentionally obtuse, it's you. If you really do not understand how a Kryptonian creature could stab Superman, you're either really unfamiliar with the character or you're just feigning ignorance to make your point.

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Couldn't anyone with sufficient strength, like Hulk, wield Storm Breaker??

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no, Thor only

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Stormbreaker is actually Beta Ray Bill's version of Mjolnir. When they named it Stormbreaker in the film, I was hoping for a moment that it meant that Bill would show up in a future film. Maybe in Guardians.

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There's a feeling in the moment and a feeling in hindsight. The movie (and everything leading up to it) did its purpose in that we were immersed to a point where you felt the emotion and sadness for Stark. That doesn't have to be lessened just because you're aware of Spiderman's return because it's not your knowledge that's significant to the moment; it's Stark's.

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There's a different kind of viewer experience in comic book films than there are in other genres, and I think THAT'S one of the big differences in how they are received. Two things affect the way we are supposed to watch the films, for good and the bad:

1. Moments - Superhero films are not about singular stories that start and finish, they never have been. In fact, a singular comic book typically tells a narrative over a few hours at best. You're supposed to get lost in that moment, in that ten minute battle that takes half an issue to tell. Typically you know the end, the good will win (most of the time), but it is how that's the fun. This is why the films can feel like "theme parks," to an extent. You're whisked from one moment to next, there's a big themepark of stories to enjoy so it's never really "over," and you just enjoy the moment. A typical film has a definite start point and definite end point, and it's constructed so that the details you need to fill in make you feel complete. That's not how comics work. There will always be more stories, more fights, more heroes, more villains. More.

2. Surrogates - No, not the terrible Bruce Willis film, but when talking about "That doesn't have to be lessened just because you're aware of Spiderman's return because it's not your knowledge that's significant to the moment; it's Stark's," you are talking about feeling or even being the hero in the moment. That's the myth and the pull of a superhero movie, because we want to be the heroes. No one watches The Godfather saying, "Yeah I want to be Michael Corleone," or watches Dumb and Dumber and wants to be Harry or Lloyd. You are watching a film to watch the story of a character, to see how they react, how they change. Part of the comic book is to constantly put yourself in the shoes of the hero, or next to the hero in the fight. That's the dream growing up, to have the power to join the fight. So, movies that dig into that are requiring the viewer to "join the fight," or at least want to see the film from the character's perspective, not from the viewer perspective. So, even though we know Spider-Man is coming back, we don't know how. And we know that Stark doesn't know, that's where the impact is supposed to come from.

These reasons are also why it's hard for some people to just not care, or just not "get" it. Additionally, and I'm only bringing it up because it was already mentioned, this is part of the reason why Snyder's universe is broken. He's created a bunch of characters that no one wants to be. He never dug into the "join the fight" feeling of most comic books. He distanced viewers, and this is why Superman's death has little impact. Again, he never understood exactly what Nolan did, but he still tried to replicate it.

Anyways, I think that's why people have reacted so differently to IW and the Marvel films in general, they've tapped into that part of comic books, of creating really good surrogates surrounded by excellent comic books moments. The viewer is supposed to enjoy being on the ride, not watching the ride from the walkway.