re: Infinity war reaction and SPOILERS thread

Rocket had a spare

Slight spoilers I guess. In the comic run, isn’t it Adam Warlock that steals the gauntlet and rolls it all back?

Adam plays a big role from my understanding. And he is actually the one they refer to in the end-credit scenes in Guardians of the Galaxy 2. I also remember hearing the producers say something about how they really want Adam Warlock to play a big role.


However I know they also plan on making Captain Marvel a huge part of it too and Captain Marvel has a movie before the next Avengers movies and Guardians does not

Maybe he got lazy on Saakar. Sort of like rocky in rocky 3

Now that Xandar has been destroyed, a really pissed off and massively powered Nova should show up soon.

Lot of nerd in that sentence.

Movie was crap, badly developed characters, the villain's CGI is terrible, bored throughout and the plot is so ridiculous that makes the heroes depend on a single character at the end of it all.
And that is my opinion of Justice League, Infinity War was intense and perfect.

Finally, back to the internet after two days

So just finished and as another great villain would say, here, we, go.....

I'd easily say Infinity War is in the Top Tier of Superhero movies. Where Superman and Spider-Man 2 ( and a few others in that group) are great is in their incredibly personal and small stories, despite the enormity of their responsibility. They tell individual stories very, very well, and give us well rounded characters, origins and villains. And they should be heralded for that, that is their purpose. But that's not only what comic books are. Comic books also have big stories with big characters, and stakes at a universal/dimensional/existence level. From the IG to Crisis on Infinite Earths, to Kang, Flashpoint, Infinite Crisis, House of M, and a host of other stories, comics for better and worse, often go for broke in the story and stake department. I would have never thought we'd see anything like this in any medium outside of the comic book itself, but here we are.

Look, some of the critiques are probably valid, a host of characters, little backstory for most of them, stakes that are sometimes undefinable (I actually found the humor on point, just enough, but not too much). But what IW sets out to do, it does almost perfectly, and that is no small feat. And while the story is big, and the universe is in danger, I think the Russos did a remarkable job making it feel as small as they could. The stories were woven together very well, and they split it up right. They also rewrote a significant portion of the comics, but that is Feige's Mona Lisa. He has the incredible knack of pulling in the right things from the comics, keeping the spirit alive, yet cutting the fluff. Well done all around. Movies might not necessarily have to be "this or that," it's just we didn't have studios with the balls to take on something different, I think that's the core of any backlash. IW can be viewed as a great film through one lens. Does that mean I'd compare it to the singular greatness of certain films: No. It's different, and it's supposed to be, just like Holy Grail, Die Hard, Frankenstein, and many other great films. It's unique, it does exactly what it sets out to do, and it leaves a mark on the medium.

So let's get down to a few points, as usual for a big review:

1. Thanos - Really, the movie starts and ends here, figuratively and literally. Thanos provides the core of keeping the film small and focused. He's an awesome character, and while I'm not going to go out and compare him to Ledger's Joker, I think he was close with physical presence being the only barrier that he just can't get over. His backstory is well laid out. He had a focus, a different focus from the comics, that drove him. He's consistent, has a good bit of depth and most of all dangerous: Killing Loki, felling Hulk without the gauntlet intact, throwing moons. They pulled in stuff from outside of the original IG story as well, making him grounded. Brolin was excellent, and delivered lines so well. They met expectations, and laid the groundwork for a tragic character, as it should be.

2. The Heroes - Granted in this kind of singular film, you just aren't going to get the full character depth of one single hero, although this is still very much Tony's story, but most of the big characters were given a chance to shine. Where Tony and Thor probably hold the most development - Rocket, Strange, Star-Lord, Gamora, Witch, Spider-Man all had solid moments. I'm actually surprised Cap had very little to do. Performances were spot on for what they built, and that would be all I ask. I do wonder what will be leftover when all is done, that gets me to....

3. The Stakes - Certainly the most divisive part of all of this. I'm going to start with the death fascination. It seems a lot of people require death, have been predicting death, and are judging the movie on death. (The obsessiveness over death by viewers is quite funny juxtaposed against the Comic IG story ). You are doing yourself a disservice, so I think you should stop. Just take it. Don't judge this film, or the next film, on what happens to the "faded people." Or who and what comes back. You are doing it wrong. This is how comics work. People don't necessarily have to die to have drama, that isn't the only way. Plus, the whole point is to enjoy the myth-like stories of these heroes. Yes, some will die, yes some will die and come back, yes some will live against impossible odds. That's the point. These are "heroes," for a reason. And that reason isn't necessarily death. Regardless of what happens, heroes are always willing to die (well most of them), that's the point. "They" think they will die, that's enough, or it should be.

3b. The Stakes - The End - Honestly, I walked into this film thinking they would end with Thanos one stone away from the Gauntlet, and the snap in the next film. Ending with the snap and the fallout of the snap took me by surprised. I did not think they had the balls to do it, but I'm glad they did. Our theater reacted appropriately and when Bucky starts to go, it was just silent for the next 5 minutes as we watch everyone fade. That was perfectly set up. There's your stakes, even if they ALL come back, Thanos won, at least for a moment, until other heroes (or the same heroes) rise up. Again, that's the point.

4. The Technical Details - All around solid. Very good special effects. Acting on point for the type of film and characters, and the editing was fantastic. That was a lot of story to squeeze in.

5. Where Do We Go? - I'm kind of shocked that they were able to leave fans with that much uncertainty, and I'm also upset we didn't get the A4 title. Do they do some version of the Thanos Quest? Does Adam Warlock come into play? Do Steve and Tony get their makeup, and last shot? I love it. They were able to take inspiration from the comics, and still leave an unknown path ahead, that is masterful by Feige. We'll all spend the next year betting on deaths, and we'll all know prior to the film, because that's how these things work, and they will announce follow-up films, and someone will spoil via action figures and what not. I would say, just enjoy the ride.

All credit to the Russos on this one, they really did do something completely unique, bested Whedon, and made a top tier comic book film. There's not much more you can ask for except for them to stay in charge for awhile.

I like personal stories, but sometimes you just want to see a big, apocalyptic battle, and that's what this was. Might be my favorite superhero film.

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Slight spoilers I guess. In the comic run, isn’t it Adam Warlock that steals the gauntlet and rolls it all back?

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He does.

Immediately thereafter, the cosmic entities hold court with the Living Tribunal, and Eternity claims that no one entity should hold such power. He argues that the stones should not be allowed to work together and wins the debate.

The Living Tribunal rules in favor of Eternity, and Warlock is forced to find holders of the stones. It spawned the series The Infinity Watch for a while.

Then Magus comes along and the Gauntlet is sought again. Much less-impressive than the Infinity Gauntlet mini series.

I highly recommend the original Infinity Gauntlet miniseries from the early 90’s, as well as Thanos Quest, where he goes and gets the stones. TQ really shows Thanos’ cunning and clever sides.

stolen from reddit

12 dead.....12 alive...perfectly balanced

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Yeah, but I don’t understand some of his ridiculous cruelty in past movies, especially when it comes to Nebula.

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probably stuff that was pre-Russos and thanos was still set to be your typical big bad