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re: Hulk Hogan; Real American Documentary on Netflix
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:51 am to SUB
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:51 am to SUB
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Then the finger poke...it's like the big matches meant nothing. I got so tired of that and stopped watching. Also, Goldberg was cool at first but he was a one trick pony and kind of boring.
I didn't hate this as much as everyone then,,,,but I was a kid and just wanted the nWo back together. Had they followed that up with a massive group purge, maybe it could have worked
I think they were already pretty fricked at that point anyway, WWF was just putting out a better product by that time, botching Starcade was probably the true beginning of the end.
I had checked out of wrestling by the time WCW hired Russo out of desperation to salvage things so I don't really have any memories of that iteration of the nWo but I'd guess if it was led by Jeff Jarret, it probably sucked
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:08 am to SUB
Does anyone else remember how Hogan previously changed his birth date through the years? He was much older than he claimed. I believe he was listed at 71 or 72 at the time of his death, but during a couple of interviews in the 90s he claimed his year if birth was as far back as '46 and '47.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 11:49 pm to Canon951
Since Ole Anderson is no longer with us, the title of most miserable, bitter former wrestler will continue to be Bret Hart.
Bret and Shawn had one helluva feud. I always wonder how things would have been different if Shawn had his head on straight. That guy was charismatic and could carry a match. Bret was a great wrestler, but zero appeal. Greasy hair, jorts, and terrible mike skills
Bret and Shawn had one helluva feud. I always wonder how things would have been different if Shawn had his head on straight. That guy was charismatic and could carry a match. Bret was a great wrestler, but zero appeal. Greasy hair, jorts, and terrible mike skills
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:57 am to TulsaSooner78
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I find that very hard to believe. Seems like it should have been someone from the NWA days.
Exactly. They thought he would say Steamboat. All of his answers were WWE-leaning and they just felt he was full of shite with his answers.
Another tidbit I forgot to mention: back in 92 when Hennig hit on the girl I was dating who worked at Mike's Bar off Sherwood, he told her his name was "Mr. Wonderful." I knew that couldn't be possible because Paul Ornforff was working for WCW at that time. So ehen she told me that, at first I was like, "You mean Mr. Perfect" and she said, "No, he said Mr. Wonderful." Yet when I showed her a photo of Hennig, she said it was him. That led me to believe that either A) he was lying in case they actually did hook up and he didn't want it coming back to him; or B) he was playing a rib on Paul Orndorff. Both he and Flair were married at the time.
This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 9:15 am
Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:12 am to Everclear2000
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Bret and Shawn had one helluva feud. I always wonder how things would have been different if Shawn had his head on straight. That guy was charismatic and could carry a match. Bret was a great wrestler, but zero appeal. Greasy hair, jorts, and terrible mike skills
The problem w/ Shawn was that he couldn't draw. He's one of the worst-drawing World champions of all-time. Straight 15+ males couldn't stand him, and they were the #1 demographic. I agree that Bret wasn't the best on the mic, but he could work, and he had a connection to the fans. Not to mention, he was HUGE overseas during a time when the company was trying to expand their market.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:30 am to moontigr
Brett was a good bad guy, had me hating Canada as a child
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:36 pm to Canon951
I enjoyed it, although as a big wrestling fan growing up and even now, there wasn't much new information that I didn't already know.
Although I forgot about Hogan Knows Best and Linda was banging a 19 year old.
Nothing can take away from the fact that The Hulkster was great and will always be #1 on wrestling Mount Rushmore.
Also, Bert Hart sucks and just complains on any wrestling documentary or podcast now. He was extremely overrated.
Although I forgot about Hogan Knows Best and Linda was banging a 19 year old.
Nothing can take away from the fact that The Hulkster was great and will always be #1 on wrestling Mount Rushmore.
Also, Bert Hart sucks and just complains on any wrestling documentary or podcast now. He was extremely overrated.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 1:26 pm to LasVegasTiger
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Bert Hart sucks and just complains on any wrestling documentary or podcast now.
Dude would be awesome to get drunk with. He would just spin out of control.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 1:43 pm to LasVegasTiger
I enjoyed it. The Hulkster was flawed human for sure and made some missteps along the way...which we all do...but I think he was a good person at his core. The doc just reminded me of a much simpler time in life...
My pops would tell stories about running from church on Sunday nights in the 80s to go watch Mid-South wrestling...and I grew up in the 90s in the prime of WCW...coincidentally finished it up on my dads birthday, who passed away in 2023. When the scenes of all Hulks peers tearing up after his passing...it got me.
My pops would tell stories about running from church on Sunday nights in the 80s to go watch Mid-South wrestling...and I grew up in the 90s in the prime of WCW...coincidentally finished it up on my dads birthday, who passed away in 2023. When the scenes of all Hulks peers tearing up after his passing...it got me.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 1:43 pm to LasVegasTiger
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Nothing can take away from the fact that The Hulkster was great and will always be #1 on wrestling Mount Rushmore.
As a wrestling historian, I'm not so sure I agree with that. I personally have him #3, behind Lou Thesz and Jim Londos. That said, he definitely has an argument for #1. As for Bret being overrated, that's hogwash.
This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 5/1/26 at 3:19 pm to moontigr
Recommend this if on the fence.
Watched all this to some extent growing up and never knew the full story behind any of it.
Forgot about Hogan going on Arsenio Hall Show and doubling down on steroids.
Also wild that steroids was such a big deal back then nationally. Nowadays nobody gives a frick about steroids.
One thing you see from Linda is it doesn't matter if you make $100 million dollars and are the best in the game, women will still complain about you going to work and being the same person that got you there. Kinda wild to see that same story play out time after time.
Watched all this to some extent growing up and never knew the full story behind any of it.
Forgot about Hogan going on Arsenio Hall Show and doubling down on steroids.
Also wild that steroids was such a big deal back then nationally. Nowadays nobody gives a frick about steroids.
One thing you see from Linda is it doesn't matter if you make $100 million dollars and are the best in the game, women will still complain about you going to work and being the same person that got you there. Kinda wild to see that same story play out time after time.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 3:46 pm to moontigr
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moontigr
Dude i would love to pick your brain haha. I always said my calling was to be a professional wrestler. If only eh?
And to all those saying Bret is overrated - thanks for outing yourself. You can say he's a prick. You can say you personally don't like his style or whatever. But to say he's overrated is asinine. That dude made wrestling moves look believable. He made matches glide with ease. He controlled the pace and crowd masterfully. Just ridiculous comments.
Also, his work on the mic was sub par, I agree. However, his work as a heel in both WWF and WCW I thought were great.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 3:52 pm to moontigr
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As a wrestling historian, I'm not so sure I agree with that. I personally have him #3, behind Lou Thesz and Jim Londos. That said, he definitely has an argument for #1. As for Bret being overrated, that's hogwash.
I always flip flop between Londos and Hogan as to who mattered more. Londos drew bigger gates, but Hogan drew massive gates and ushered pro wrestling into a mainstream phenomenon like never before, and he did it twice.
Thesz was a great and credible old school champion, but he isn't at the same level as Londos or Hogan.
My top five would be Londos, Hogan, El Santo, Rikidozan, and Andre the Giant with Londos and Hogan as 1 and 1A.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 3:55 pm to BlackAdam
You can't really compare old timers to the tv era wrestlers. It's totally different.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 3:56 pm to floyd of pink
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You can say he's a prick. You can say you personally don't like his style or whatever. But to say he's overrated is asinine. That dude made wrestling moves look believable. He made matches glide with ease. He controlled the pace and crowd masterfully. Just ridiculous comments
I mean yeah he could actually wrestle but he was boring as all get out. Hulk had 3 moves and was 1000% more entertaining but it's sports entertainment. Probably why Hart is so bitter these days towards multiple older wrestlers.
I'm sure many of us could name many wrestlers in the past 30 years better than Hart overall. I'm including not just technical wrestling.
This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 5/1/26 at 4:55 pm to LasVegasTiger
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I mean yeah he could actually wrestle but he was boring as all get out. Hulk had 3 moves and was 1000% more entertaining but it's sports entertainment. Probably why Hart is so bitter these days towards multiple older wrestlers.
The ability to 'work' is probably the least important aspect of being a great professional wrestler. The Junkyard Dog could never work, but he was more over in 1982 than almost anybody has ever been.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 5:36 pm to BlackAdam
I would agree. That is why in my opinion Hart was overrated from an overall stand point.
There were many other wrestlers that were way more entertaining and over, some even were just as good as wrestlers as him and some that couldn't wrestle for crap.
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There were many other wrestlers that were way more entertaining and over, some even were just as good as wrestlers as him and some that couldn't wrestle for crap.
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quote:, I would like to have a beer with you and ask you many questions haha. I've been to many shows across the US over my lifetime from PPV to Indie shows in 4H clubs in rural Indiana. I enjoy listening to wrestling stories.
moontigr
This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 5/2/26 at 12:49 am to BlackAdam
Are any of those Londos gates verifiable? Cornette always talks about him supposedly drawing 100k in Greece but we all know that worked attendance numbers didn't start with Vince.
Another impressive thing about WM3 that no one talks about is it did like 450k closed circuit sales in addition to the 9.0 buyrate on PPV and the at least 85k in attendance.
Another impressive thing about WM3 that no one talks about is it did like 450k closed circuit sales in addition to the 9.0 buyrate on PPV and the at least 85k in attendance.
Posted on 5/2/26 at 7:44 am to LasVegasTiger
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I enjoy listening to wrestling stories.
I LOVED wrestling at a kid in the 90s. Haven't watched it in 25 years until the last few weeks because one of my kids has started getting into it but for some reason I've always loved all the old stories, documentaries, dark side of the rings etc... Not sure why the whole culture is so intriguing to me.
Posted on 5/2/26 at 8:09 am to BlackAdam
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The ability to 'work' is probably the least important aspect of being a great professional wrestler.
The people who care about this have always fascinated me. They care so much about the technical ability of literal fake wrestling.
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