re: How can DC get things so wrong, and Marvel get them so right?

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The phrase "shitty opinion" implies a belief in a lack of intelligence to me.

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Urine idoit

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It is in the case of Man of Steel. They abandoned plans for the shared universe after Green Lantern failed so epically. They had nothing drawn up or outlined when Snyder came in and told him his idea for the DCEU.

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Still awaiting this link, as this is literally the first time I'm reading this excuse for why the universe seems to have been cobbled together so haphazardly.

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Then you've been ignoring my posts. Green Lantern was slated to be DC's "Iron Man". Man of Steel was already in pre-production due to Warner's need to get a Superman movie out before they reneged on their agreement to pay the Siegel and Shuster families on future Superman films (so that they didn't have to pay additional royalties on the previous Superman movies). Green Lantern tanked, Man of Steel didn't, DC decided to move their future franchise to the Superman storyline.

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looking at possibly the biggest movie of all time next year

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lol wut?

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They have been nothing short of a resounding success

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"Resounding" is a bit much. They haven't had any flops, but they've had their share of films that were just basic successful films.

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Marvel took shite into their own hands

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Marvel was its own independent company at the time. DC has been owned by Warner Bros. since 1989.

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And there is the issue.

Marvel took shite into their own hands

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That, to be honest, is the issue.

When it comes to the DC comics the WB is the Palestine of media. They have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

JLU does not get to use the Batman villains because they were rebooting a new Batman cartoon show. The CW shows set up Ted Kord (Blue Beetle) for the spot Atom would ultimately take and they got vetoed. The CW shows practically beg to have Dick Grayson and they are turned down.

They have only recently loosened up. I'll be honest, the "aw shucks" Superman that guest starred last season on Supergirl is the best Superman they've put out since the World of Cardboard speech JLU Superman gave.

I think the WB is beginning to come around to its properties. Snyder is not the guy to get them there. But they have those people under contract now. The people behind Wonder Woman get the character. Joss Whedon is biting off his own foot to make a Batgirl movie.

Yes, the CW shows veer into the soap opera realm more then I would care for but when they are on, they are on. Not bad for a production of former Glee singers and Canadians hired because they are from the area.

DC movies have the potential to be amazing. Its a shame they were hobbled out of the gate.

DC loves it's characters and while they misstep a lot in comics feedback from the readers still gets listened to. WB execs love to meddle in their film studios though but on the other hand leave their Animation studios alone.

This is why after the success of Begins, Nolan got to adapt lots of key parts of The Long Halloween. He made solid gold and was their goose.

On the other hand Bruce Timm was given money to make a Batman cartoon with Harley to keep the brand train rolling and had no one checking in anymore. He introduced us to his fart fetish. And not a single exec will ever know.

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The argument that seems to stem from this is DC fans(we know who you are, and it's okay) have to point out that they didn't like a Marvel movie or an aspect of it, and therefore all of the MCU or the great majority of it is garbage, and anyone who did like it is part of a cult or lemmings or moths or whatever you want to call us.

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Then obviously I am not one of those DC fans because I have been a fan of the MCU for a very long time. I absolutely enjoyed Phase One (with one or two exceptions) and thought Phase Two was also quite entertaining (with a few exceptions here and there). Phase Three, however, has been an unparalleled disappointment, at least for me, and it's mainly because of stale and predictable writing. Spider-Man: Homecoming has been the lone bright spot of Phase Three in my opinion.

As to the "Cult of Marvel" comments, they stem from the fact that you can't criticize or even question the decisions made by Marvel in some of these films. I came back from Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. II, explained why I didn't like it, and promptly received 20 down votes within the span of 10 minutes. And it's not like I hated it just to hate it. I had some complaints that I thought were legitimate and got freaking trashed. Almost two months later, Spider-Man: Homecoming comes out and I write on here how much I liked the film and can't wait to see Tom Holland in the role again. Not a single up vote or down vote.

When someone criticizes these films it's like a moth to a flame. You are immediately swarmed, told you have a shitty opinion, and that these movies are made to be fun and are not some experiment in arthouse theater.

And when I compliment Batman v. Superman on little things here and there, or compliment Suicide Squad on a few of the cast's performances, or talk about how I thought Man of Steel was a really good movie, I am raked over the coals because nothing can be right about any of those movies.

And the DCEU movie that everyone on here likes (Wonder Woman), it's the most MCU-like film DC has put out to date. Is it coincidence that everyone seemed to be entertained by it? I don't know. But it is interesting to say the very least.

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I think I've found your problem, you actually give a shite about up or down votes enough to keep track.

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If I gave a shite about up votes/down votes I would never say anything bad about the MCU. I was merely using the up vote/down vote system to reinforce my point about there being a cult surrounding the Marvel movies on this board. Any dissent is frowned upon.