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re: How can DC get things so wrong, and Marvel get them so right?
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:07 am to Breesus
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:07 am to Breesus
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You said the entirety of the MCU was worse than the dark knight trilogy and no comic books movies would ever be that good again.
You don't consider that "hardly an attack on Marvel"?
There are many people out there who consider Citizen Kane, a film that was released over 75 years ago, to be the pinnacle of filmmaking. Do you consider that opinion an attack on all the films that came after it?
Jesus, people, use your freaking heads. I was simply saying that The Dark Knight was the best movie in the genre. And unless the MCU changes up their formula, they won't ever be able to approach the level of quality Nolan's Batman films reached.
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Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:09 am to RollTide1987
quote:What genre?
I was simply saying that The Dark Knight was the best movie in the genre.
The non-comic book movie genre?
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:09 am to RollTide1987
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1) Warner Bros. never planned for a shared universe
That's actually not true. They planned for a shared universe starting with Green Lantern, but it was such a spectacular failure that they abandoned that plan.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:11 am to RollTide1987
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There are many people out there who consider Citizen Kane, a film that was released over 75 years ago, to be the pinnacle of filmmaking
Those people are stupid. That is probably the most overrated movie in this history of cinema. It might have been the best movie made when it was made, but its not the end all be all of the movie industry.
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Do you consider that opinion an attack on all the films that came after it?
Absolutely. It immediately shuts down conversations when movie snob douche's repeat dumb shite like "well its no Citizen Kane". Same with idiots like you starting shite with the line "well its no Dark Knight".
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:12 am to Roaad
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What genre?
The non-comic book movie genre?
You're smarter than that. Or at least I thought you were.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:14 am to Roaad
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But really, the difference between MCU and DECU is simple: Marvel respects the source material and DC doesn't. DC films do everything they can to distance themselves from the comics, and ignore a half century worth of stories, while Marvel glories in their comic book nature, and lifts plots wholesale.
DC films are for people who don't like comic books. Which is fine, but an odd tact for a studio in the business of adapting comic books to the screen.
I think this nails it, tbh
Baloo always nails the simple core of the point.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:14 am to RollTide1987
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You're smarter than that. Or at least I thought you were.
Another "I'm so smart" post. Classic.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:15 am to Breesus
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Those people are stupid.
They're stupid because they have an opinion?
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That is probably the most overrated movie in this history of cinema.
They probably think you're stupid for having this opinion.
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It might have been the best movie made when it was made, but its not the end all be all of the movie industry.
Tell that to those who work in the movie industry. They're the ones who generally hold that opinion. It was the movie industry who voted it #1 after all.
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It immediately shuts down conversations when movie snob douche's repeat dumb shite like "well its no Citizen Kane".
I've never had that happen to me.
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Same with idiots like you starting shite with the line "well its no Dark Knight".
And yet we're still having a conversation, aren't we? I think you're a little too hyperbolic for your own good.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:15 am to Breesus
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Troll on
Based on his posting history, he seems to be more of an overly emotional, dimwitted fanboy than a troll (see his pathetic flood of Tom Brady posts on the MSB).
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:16 am to Roaad
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Batman begins took the Iron Fist origin story, and said. . ."Yes. . . all of that."
So if we are talking rip offs. . .
*shhhhh*
You'll ruin his fantasy that Batman is the Alpha and the Omega of everything comic book.
This post was edited on 8/24/17 at 10:19 am
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:17 am to LNCHBOX
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Another "I'm so smart" post. Classic.
And yet you were the first to attack me for having a shitty opinion. It seems like you're just as guilty my friend.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:19 am to RollTide1987
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Tell that to those who work in the movie industry. They're the ones who generally hold that opinion. It was the movie industry who voted it #1 after all.
Oh. OK. Hold on while I call the movie industry.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:21 am to Breesus
And yet you're the one who shuts down the conversation in the end. The irony.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:24 am to Baloo
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Marvel respects the source material and DC doesn't.
See I think DC gets wrongfully blamed here. The problem is more WB than DC. Its a different situation than Marvel, which started their own studio.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:25 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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That's actually not true.
It is in the case of Man of Steel. They abandoned plans for the shared universe after Green Lantern failed so epically. They had nothing drawn up or outlined when Snyder came in and told him his idea for the DCEU.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:25 am to RollTide1987
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And yet you were the first to attack me for having a shitty opinion. It seems like you're just as guilty my friend.
I never said your shitty opinion made you stupid or me smarter than you.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:27 am to RLDSC FAN
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The problem is more WB than DC.
Bingo.
Warner Bros. is mostly to blame here. They are the ones who let Zack Snyder direct Batman v. Superman and Justice League (though I believe that particular film is becoming a Joss Whedon film more and more by the day).
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:27 am to Roaad
One thing that Marvel Studios seems to do better than DC is to keep a lid on what they have in their early planning stages. I don't know if it's the Disney machine or if it's because Warner's plans are more fluid than Marvel Studios set-in-stone long term plans.
You don't hear much about ideas that Marvel passed on, or that never came to fruition (other than the Inhumans debacle).
You don't hear much about ideas that Marvel passed on, or that never came to fruition (other than the Inhumans debacle).
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:29 am to LNCHBOX
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I never said your shitty opinion made you stupid or me smarter than you.
The phrase "shitty opinion" implies a belief in a lack of intelligence to me. But what do I know? I'm just a DC fanboy.
Posted on 8/24/17 at 10:36 am to RollTide1987
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The phrase "shitty opinion" implies a belief in a lack of intelligence to me.
That's another shittty opinion. If I wanted to call you stupid, I would. Your opinion on a movie, regardless of my opinion of your opinion, is just an opinion.
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But what do I know? I'm just a DC fanboy.
Sigh.
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