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re: House of the Dragon S1E5: “We Light The Way”--Official Thread;
Posted on 9/20/22 at 10:17 am to Hogssmellgood
Posted on 9/20/22 at 10:17 am to Hogssmellgood
Is there a backstory to why Daemon married a lower noble woman from a secondary house in the Vale?
Seems like Targaryens either keep the bloodline pure (incest) or forge powerful alliances. Since the King was already married to an Arryn it doesn't really make sense to forge an alliance with the Vale. And it certainly wasn't a marriage born out of passion.
Daemon was a potential heir to the throne and one of the most powerful men in the kingdom. Just seems misplaced that he was married off to her.
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Posted on 9/20/22 at 10:24 am to AUFANATL
Posted on 9/20/22 at 10:58 am to AUFANATL
quote:The Royces are an ancient house and the second most powerful house in the Vale after the Arryns.
Is there a backstory to why Daemon married a lower noble woman from a secondary house in the Vale?
The king's wife was an Arryn. Might have something to do with it.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:01 am to AUFANATL
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Is there a backstory to why Daemon married a lower noble woman from a secondary house in the Vale?
House Royce was similar to that of House Velaryon when it came to prominence in their respective regions. They go back several ages and have Kings in their lineage as well.
My guess is he was married off to someone just outside of the direct line to the throne.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:14 am to AUFANATL
quote:That is not really an accurate description. Her family is the second-most-powerful family in the Vale. There, they are to House Arryn as House Hightower is to House Tyrell in the Reach, and the King himself married a Hightower as his second wife.
Is there a backstory to why Daemon married a lower noble woman from a secondary house in the Vale?
quote:THIS is a valid point. It WOULD have been a good idea politically for the King to marry his brother to a important family below the PARAMOUNT family in a different region. Maybe House Castamere, which was still the second-most-powerful House in the Westlands, since Tywin Lannister had not yet reduced them to rubble.
Since the King was already married to an Arryn it doesn't really make sense to forge an alliance with the Vale
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 11:25 am
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:54 am to AggieHank86
It is also mentioned that she was in fact the heir to Runestone so the prospect of the royal family gaining another castle might have been tempting.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:06 pm to theGarnetWay
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This. Her father laid it out to her explicitly before you left - pray that Rhaenyra is extremely merciful (doesn’t seem the type) - or start opposing her now because her ascension naturally threatens the her well being the well being of her son. I think her father’s words, combined with his expulsion and Cole’s admission, father woke her to the dangers around her and made her realize what she must do for her and her son to survive.
Being explicitly defiant is also a dumb move on her part though. As it just all but guarantees that outcome. As Rhaenyra will rightfully interpret outward defiance as a threat and feel pushed to act accordingly, something she may not have done otherwise.
If Alicent wanted to play this game she should do it behind the scenes while acting cordial and accommodating to Rhaenyra and Viserys in their company and publicly.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:49 pm to Bronc
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Being explicitly defiant is also a dumb move on her part though. As it just all but guarantees that outcome. As Rhaenyra will rightfully interpret outward defiance as a threat and feel pushed to act accordingly, something she may not have done otherwise. If Alicent wanted to play this game she should do it behind the scenes while acting cordial and accommodating to Rhaenyra and Viserys in their company and publicly.
Maybe, but I think she wanted to show her strength and defiance while she was in front of so many families that could possibly support hers and Aegon’s claim. Even her own house explicitly noted that they were glad to see she hadn’t “withered”
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:52 pm to bayoudude
Dark skinned Valyrians..... this is largely a British production. British are obsessed with race and incorporating black people into every production.....even period peices where they were not present.
Since this is fiction fantasy it is no big deal.
Since this is fiction fantasy it is no big deal.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:30 pm to KiwiHead
So HBO's FB page (I didn't see it on the YouTube channel) just released a preview snippet of Episode 6.
Emma D'Arcy is going to be fine as Rhanerya IMO.
FB link to HBO preview for Ep 6
Emma D'Arcy is going to be fine as Rhanerya IMO.
FB link to HBO preview for Ep 6
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:51 pm to UMRealist
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I listen to a podcast that has some black guys as hosts and they absolutely shite on these guy's hair
Posted on 9/20/22 at 2:08 pm to AggieHank86
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The most common coloration for Valyrian nobles was pale skin and platinum blonde hair.
basically the Scandinavians of westeros
Posted on 9/20/22 at 2:44 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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To be fair, Sir Kisses did technically threaten the princess/heir to the throne. And I bet Corlys is happy now that his son's sidepiece is gone.
He turned the kings 7 day feast into a courthouse wedding.
And then just walked off. Didn’t say “oh he was gonna kill the princess”
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The one thing that confused me this episode was there was only 1 ship carrying not only the king but his official heir early in the episode. Maybe Rhaenyra's dragon was flying above though and we didn't see it.
For real. Also why is the king taking a boat? He doesn’t have a dragon?
Posted on 9/20/22 at 2:46 pm to theGarnetWay
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Maybe, but I think she wanted to show her strength and defiance while she was in front of so many families that could possibly support hers and Aegon’s claim. Even her own house explicitly noted that they were glad to see she hadn’t “withered”
I mean I get that is part of it(also just rage and jealousy), I'm just pointing out it is rather short sighted(not shocking given her age/experience) and basically creating a self fulfilling prophecy.
She needs to learn to have a little more Roose/Tywin in her.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 2:49 pm to SammyTiger
quote:He may be too weak to ride a dragon. Idk just offering a possible explanation.
Also why is the king taking a boat? He doesn’t have a dragon?
It also reminded me. It may have been the previous episode, but who was riding the dragon that almost took out Rhaenyra's boat? Was that done on purpose?
Posted on 9/20/22 at 2:50 pm to SammyTiger
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For real. Also why is the king taking a boat? He doesn’t have a dragon?
He chose Aegon the Conqueror’s dragon Balerion the Black Dread. Balerion died soon after of old age and he didn’t take another.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 2:51 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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To be fair, Sir Kisses did technically threaten the princess/heir to the throne. And I bet Corlys is happy now that his son's sidepiece is gone.
The one thing that confused me this episode was there was only 1 ship carrying not only the king but his official heir early in the episode. Maybe Rhaenyra's dragon was flying above though and we didn't see it.
They sort of explained this in episode and also in one of the BTS features.
1.) The king was not tyring to make a big show of it cause it is like him coming begging for this marriage. It already looks weak, and there is the possibility they say no, so you dont want to drag half of King's Landing(or show up on dragons which could be interpreted as a show of intimidation, plus I doubt Viserys can really ride much anymore).
2.) Driftmark is off the coast of Kings Landing and the Targaryens basically have a special short range royal vessel that just navigates to and from Kings Landing to Dragonstone/Driftmark. If this was a longer trip they would be taking a different ship/fleet
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 9/20/22 at 3:00 pm to StrongOffer
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It also reminded me. It may have been the previous episode, but who was riding the dragon that almost took out Rhaenyra's boat? Was that done on purpose?
Daemon.
Yeah
Posted on 9/20/22 at 4:56 pm to Esquire
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He chose Aegon the Conqueror’s dragon Balerion the Black Dread. Balerion died soon after of old age and he didn’t take another.
Flew Balerion in battle actually, if I recall actually. Either he was hurt by Balerion's loss so much he refused to try to take another or he recognized that after riding Balerion, there simply was no rising another lessor dragon.
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