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re: House of the Dragon : Season 2 - Episode 1 (Spoilers Welcome)

Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:27 pm to
The rat catcher and the guard are like Cruella's bumbling henchmen, Only a lot more cruel. I'm guessing it doesn't go well when they bring the wrong head to Daemon.

How does the queen stand there while they butcher the kid? i mean, even if she doesn't fight, you would think she'd faint or scream or something.

Catelyn Stark fought of a guy with a dagger to protect her son.

Is Larys the Little Finger of this series?

Cole has a full time job "servicing" Alicent. No time for knight stuff.

Posted by HeyCap
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:38 pm to
Is it the wrong kill or a substitute kill by Cheese and Blood? Earlier during the exchange with Daemon, who gave an explicit description of Aemond (“one eye”) they asked what if they couldn’t find Aemond and the question was left unanswered.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

Is it the wrong kill or a substitute kill by Cheese and Blood? Earlier during the exchange with Daemon, who gave an explicit description of Aemond (“one eye”) they asked what if they couldn’t find Aemond and the question was left unanswered.


If you watch the clip long enough Daemon kind of smirks. I’m willing to bet off-screen he told them to make sure to kill one of the children if they couldn’t find Aemond.

And that would track for Daemon. He can be ruthless. He’s less concerned with it being Aemond and more concerned with an act of revenge that will force a war.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 4:47 pm to
It was weird how they went halfway with the "choose who we kill" situation. In the book, it made complete sense and made the scene way more sinister. Here, it just seemed liked they put it in just to say they did it.

Were they trying to show that Cheese was good at reading people by being able to tell that she was telling the truth?

Actually, the whole set up of Blood and Cheese seemed off to me. I don't know why we care about the whole process of getting to the room. Maybe they wanted to show Aegon being drunk and his lickspittles all around. I think it would've come off better had they shown Daemon simply meeting with the guard outside the gates midway through the episode. Then the audience may forget that part. Finally, with 10 minute to go, Blood and Cheese appear through a secret door. Then, the brutality of it all would be like a quick punch to the face rather than a drawn out process.
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 5:01 pm to
Has there been any news on if Daeron is actually in this show? I can’t believe they didn’t even mention him in S1 and I can’t imagine him not being casted. The kid has a dragon
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 6:00 pm to
Cole is likely porking all of the females living in that damn castle. If you can deflower the heiress, and pound the queen mother, why stop there? All of those maids and helpers are getting the D. probably Helena too
Posted by putt23
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 6:18 pm to
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Has there been any news on if Daeron is actually in this show? I can’t believe they didn’t even mention him in S1 and I can’t imagine him not being casted. The kid has a dragon


The show writers say he is for sure in Oldtown. But yes, the actual show hasn't mentioned him that I ever remember.
Posted by QC Reb
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 6:35 pm to
I thought Haelena’s reaction was strange too but she has never been all there mentally and she seemed to be in a complete state of shock. Like her mind couldn’t comprehend what was happening but her fight or flight told her to grab her daughter and run.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
10494 posts
Posted on 6/17/24 at 6:55 pm to
Has anyone mentioned Hugh the Hammer? They presented him early and as an honorable guy.

He’s going to break bad. Interesting twist.
Posted by Godfather1
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 7:04 pm to
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Cole is likely porking all of the females living in that damn castle.


He’s Dornish. They frick.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 7:44 am to
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Is it the wrong kill or a substitute kill by Cheese and Blood? Earlier during the exchange with Daemon, who gave an explicit description of Aemond (“one eye”) they asked what if they couldn’t find Aemond and the question was left unanswered.
thank you finally come across this ITT

As someone who didn’t read the books I was confused as to what went down at the end. I thought the ratcatchers were there to kill Aemond. Would have been a huge win for team black considering like Aegon says at the council, Aemond and his dragon are the best weapon they have.

At the least it doesn’t m seem like it’s worth the full payment from Daemon if they come back with anyone else besides Aemond, the son for a son who actually killed Lucerys.

ETA perspective from someone who didn’t read the books, obviously those of you that did knew what would happen. I expected Blood and Cheese to surprise Aemon but Aemon being the sword he is would be able to swing the confrontation around on them and get them to admit to being there to kill him and they were paid by Daemon. Which all would’ve been enough to spark the war too.

I don’t have any complaints, just confused. I must’ve missed the part where they talked about a substitute killing for Aemond
This post was edited on 6/18/24 at 7:53 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:10 am to
quote:

The rat catcher and the guard are like Cruella's bumbling henchmen, Only a lot more cruel. I'm guessing it doesn't go well when they bring the wrong head to Daemon.


Put me down as not a fan of that scene. Just was a little nonsensical and too easy for them to get in the queens room with no one other than a servant to notice them. I get that they set it up earlier that the rats were an issue so there would be a rat catcher around. But the middle of the night and walking right through the throne room with no one saying anything and no guards? Come on, that's some plot armor.

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How does the queen stand there while they butcher the kid? i mean, even if she doesn't fight, you would think she'd faint or scream or something.

Catelyn Stark fought of a guy with a dagger to protect her son.


I mean in S1 they portrayed her as almost a full retard. She wouldn't know how to handle that kind of messed up situation. And odds are if she screams she gets herself and the other baby killed.

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Cole has a full time job "servicing" Alicent. No time for knight stuff.



Which is retarded on his part since he was going to kill himself for forsaking his vow ONE TIME with Rhaenyra. He wasn't wanting to be the queens whore. So he has a lifetime of hatred for her for not running off and marrying him but yet he is literally the exact same thing with Alicent as he was going to be with RHaenyra. Why doesn't he hate himself/want to kill himself for forsaking his vows with Alicent. Man I can't stand that dude.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:24 am to
I’m most interested in what they’re going to do with Cregan. His main contribution was picking up all the pieces after the whole thing ended. It’s extremely clear he will have more to do. Which makes me more mad that they skipped him battling his uncle in the time skip.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66895 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:29 am to
The most dangerous and hate filled person is the one who lies to himself. Thats Cole, everything about him is a lie.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:41 am to
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I don’t have any complaints, just confused. I must’ve missed the part where they talked about a substitute killing for Aemond


It’s implied when they ask Daemon what to do if they can’t find Aemond. If you go back and watch the scene where he’s talking to them, he kind of smirks and then it cuts the scene.

Long story short, the impression is that he told them
If they can’t find Aemond they can kill one of the male members.

Posted by peaster68
Mississippi
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 1:54 pm to
I've spent an embarrassing amount of time studying the Targaryen family tree over the last couple years
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44259 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:36 pm to
So in this episode "Cheese" became "Rat" and led them in the tunnels, while in Season 1 of GoT, the Cheesemonger met with Vary's in the same place.
Posted by NWHoustonTiger
Cypress, TX
Member since Sep 2010
768 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
8715 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 5:08 pm to
Fer sure. He knows if it wasn't Aemond he'd further fuel the prospects of war. Now he definitely gets it.

Going to be more huge dragon battles this year than ever before.
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