re: Homeland - Season 7 - Spoilerific

I think this storyline is interesting. What's disturbing is that these days, it doesn't seem outlandish.

It totally doesn’t. You couldn’t me more correct.

so Carrie told us Wellington's backstory

Carrie in the warehouse with the 4Chan guy that coincidentally lives near her was pretty funny. I told my wife that Carrie is a trained CIA operative that has had extensive hand to hand self defense training, she is going to beat this dude's arse.

O'Keefe and the militia vs the FBI in the next episode will be interesting, some Ruby Ridge/Waco type shenanigans

POTUS Keane and COS Wellington are being set up on the General's death

how many times has saul been abducted or captured? he is the worst CIA field operative ever

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I told my wife that Carrie is a trained CIA operative that has had extensive hand to hand self defense training, she is going to beat this dude's arse.

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Exactly what I said to mine, this dude is about to get his arse whipped

It's angling toward a civil war type conflict. I find it to be entertaining because some of the themes are uncomfortably tracking our current political climate pretty closely.

I still watch it every week, occasionally it is really good.

But I'm still waiting for the day someone allows a smart, long running show on anti-terrorism to survive without cluttering it with mentally deranged protagonists (Homeland), dumb family drama (The Unit), inflated and unrealistic far-right plotting (Homeland, Berlin Station), etc.

Not anti-terror, but I guess I should give The Americans some credit here.

I laughed at the kek post on 4chan. The deus ex machina of the 4chan guy being local just threw the rest of that storyline in the shitter for me.

The dumb local LEOs siding with the terrible rendition of Alex Jones is cliche and dumb. As is the whole Alex Jones character.

I hate Carrie's sister and there really are no interpersonal characters at all, much less interesting ones.

Really no one is very interesting or likeable or even hatable (except for Carrie's sister). More just indifference

And every episode lately has had pretty shitty pacing, relying on a cliffhanger to entice you to watch next episode. Which I keep doing so I guess it works. But meh.

I don’t mind this storyline really, but the complete lack of character development is frustrating. You felt something about Brody, Quinn, early seasons Carrie, Saul, hell even Max. Now there is nothing.

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I don’t mind this storyline really, but the complete lack of character development is frustrating. You felt something about Brody, Quinn, early seasons Carrie, Saul, hell even Max. Now there is nothing.

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I guess I've just stopped taking the show seriously, and the 4chan malware thing fit in with its increasingly farcical nature.

And it wasn't just the coincidence of the internet creep living right there. The "Carrie's lithium is becoming ineffective, so she is going to do more things no CIA ("former" or current) would ever do" thing is an equally uncompelling and tiresome plot device.

The first few seasons made you want to suspend disbelief without even knowing it. Brodie and Quinn and Saul were all complicated characters, and their relationships with Carrie were suspenseful and compelling.

That's tough writing to keep up, especially while weaving compelling plots, arising out of complex characters and relationships.

The show just devolved into a transient conspiracy-theory- plot-driven cliffhanger, trying too hard to create suspense and intrigue.