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Posted on 1/3/22 at 6:48 am to theunknownknight
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You like the male penis
What if the wand is actually a penis?
Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:14 am to Tigerfan56
Voldermort's hubris was always his downfall. He made a lot of mistakes in his rise to power. From the moment he killed Harry's parents and not realizing he put a protective spell around Harry was just one of them. Also, when Voldermort split his soul 7 (or 8?) times he was warned by Slughorn that this process leads to a cursed life.
Tom Riddle could have cleaned Harry's clock but when he became Voldermort he was done.
Reading the books really makes a difference in the transformation of Tom Riddle to Voldermort
Tom Riddle could have cleaned Harry's clock but when he became Voldermort he was done.
Reading the books really makes a difference in the transformation of Tom Riddle to Voldermort
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:36 am to CU_Tigers4life
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Reading the books really makes a difference in the transformation of Tom Riddle to Voldermort
And if they do decide to do a Harry Potter series on HBO Max, they need to show Tom Riddle getting his horcuxes from people and his fall from Riddle to Voldemort. They really missed out on that in the Half Blood Prince movie.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:45 am to Bama Shadow
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I just want to know why the elder wand didn't belong to Voldemort after he killed Harry the first time if it was Harry's wand. Wouldn't it have changed allegiance once Voldemort killed Harry ?
Because wands have a mind of their own. “The wand chooses the wizard.”This was set up in the very first movie.
The wand chose Harry
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:49 am to 3nOut
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Well that’s enough being a complete loser for now. I’m going to go watch football and stare at my wife’s boobs or something
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:14 am to extremetigerfanatic
quote:Not for the elder wand. It doesn’t choose
Because wands have a mind of their own. “The wand chooses the wizard.”This was set up in the very first movie.
The wand chose Harry
This is why
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The reason why Voldemort never became the rightful owner of the Elder Wand after casting the killing spell at Harry in the Forbidden Forest is because he never disarmed or killed Harry, nor did he harm any part of Harry's soul but his own.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:20 am to Bama Shadow
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I just want to know why the elder wand didn't belong to Voldemort after he killed Harry the first time if it was Harry's wand. Wouldn't it have changed allegiance once Voldemort killed Harry ?
Honestly the whole wand thing is dumb. Anytime anyone gets disarmed then that makes them the rightful owner of someone else’s wand. It doesn’t make any sense when you remotely think about it. JKR should have gone back to the drawing board on that.
Plus as has been pointed out, Voldemort was powerless to kill Harry or anyone else after Harry sacrifices himself, so the wand doesn’t even necessarily have to be loyal to Harry in order for Harry to defeat him. Voldemort was already defeated by the time he was in the Great Hall.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:27 am to CU_Tigers4life
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Voldermort's hubris was always his downfall. He made a lot of mistakes in his rise to power. From the moment he killed Harry's parents and not realizing he put a protective spell around Harry was just one of them. Also, when Voldermort split his soul 7 (or 8?) times he was warned by Slughorn that this process leads to a cursed life.
That and he was extremely reckless with his Horcruxes. Two of them he intentionally weaponized, one he buried in the floorboards of his grandfather’s house, and another one he just threw into a room at Hogwarts that any Ravenclaw would immediately recognize if they found it. Voldemort knew that fricking Draco and Harry knew about the Room of Requirement simply due to the previous book. In the very least he should have removed that Horcrux immediately when he took over Hogwarts. Only two of them were in actual good hiding places.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:30 am to lsupride87
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Not for the elder wand. It doesn’t choose
If this were true then the entire sequence with Ollivander in the upper room at the Beach house is irrelevant.
Harry asks him, you talk like these wands have a mind of their own, can think. He then says,
“The wand chooses the wizard Mr Potter, that much has always been clear to those of us that study wandlore.” Harry was asking about Draco’s wand specifically, which Ollivander does say that he senses it may have had its allegiance changed to Harry (why “may have”?) but Harry was really asking these questions because he is applying the answers to the Elder Wand and he doesn’t want anyone to know what he is thinking. He immediately segues from the answer on Dracos wand directly to the Deathly Hallows.
None of this dialogue is necessary and is actually just a red herring and confusion inducing if the Elder Wand can’t choose it’s wizard like other wands.
So while the defeating the other wizard thing is part of it, ollivander is saying the wands allegiance is also part of it.
That’s why, going back to the OPs question, the wand doesn’t work for Tom. There was a Harry disarmed Draco who disarmed Snape thread that the Wand used to choose Harry. Both had to happen.
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 11:08 am
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:37 am to extremetigerfanatic
The duel in the books was perfect, it was a one spell rebound kill. No big duel, no impressive skill needed for Potter. Allowed him to be a kid and a rookie to be able to beat him because of the wand not being Voldy's and the protections from his sacrifice and his mother's death.
The director addressed this in the reunion. He wanted to be a grander and earthier feel to it. The decision was shite, the decision to make him fade away like a MCU snap victim was dumb too. That was to make it seem more like there was no way he was coming back like if there was a body. His decisions were shite here.
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BTW the movies ruined the end by not giving the final duel justice. It should have been in the Great Hall with everyone watching. The book version was amazing. It’s exposited Harry’s understanding of what was happening and how he figured out how to kill Voldemort as Harry taunts Voldemort.
In the movie no one even sees Voldy die. I was let down.
The director addressed this in the reunion. He wanted to be a grander and earthier feel to it. The decision was shite, the decision to make him fade away like a MCU snap victim was dumb too. That was to make it seem more like there was no way he was coming back like if there was a body. His decisions were shite here.
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 10:40 am
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:56 am to Dam Guide
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The director addressed this in the reunion. He wanted to be a grander and earthier feel to it. The decision was shite, the decision to make him fade away like a MCU snap victim was dumb too. That was to make it seem more like there was no way he was coming back like if there was a body. His decisions were shite here.
That decision struck me as some idiot producer back in Hollywood saying that the end was too boring and needed to spice it up. Same with the Death Eaters getting shitfaced on Christmas and burning down the Weaselies house.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:07 am to OMLandshark
It was a decision made in Hollywood all the time, one made by someone who didn’t read the source material.
I don’t know how you read the book and then think what they chose was better. Unless you haven’t read what JKR wrote.
I don’t know how you read the book and then think what they chose was better. Unless you haven’t read what JKR wrote.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:13 am to extremetigerfanatic
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I don’t know how you read the book and then think what they chose was better. Unless you haven’t read what JKR wrote.
That and focusing on the romance plot, the Death Eaters getting shitfaced on Christmas, and removing most of the Voldemort flashbacks as well comes off as an idiot producer ruining things. Honestly Ron and Hermione should have been sidelined for a movie in favor of focusing on Harry, Dumbledore, Draco, Snape, and Voldemort’s backstory and probably filmed all three of the final films simultaneously to stick the landing.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:33 pm to LSUFreek
Unfortunately if Cursed Child gets made and canonized, Harry Potter will be drinking Green Titty Milk like Luke.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 3:33 pm to Duzz
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Cursed Child
Did diehards hate it? I read the synopsis and the reviews, which seem largely positive.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 3:51 pm to Boring
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but adults who base their lives around a Harry Potter obsession are fricking weird.
I know one. She's 31.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 4:11 pm to Tigerfan56
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There’s no way in hell that Harry is outdueling Voldemort 1v1. Voldemort was one of the greatest wizards in history. Potter was average at best. Change my mind.
Harry Potter proved it on the field...what other proof do you need?
Posted on 1/3/22 at 4:23 pm to Tigerfan56
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Voldemort was one of the greatest wizards in history.
Only while he had his soul split into various objects.
Once the horcruxes were destroyed, all it took was a wand disarm charm to defeat him. Plus, the elder wand didn’t belong to him.
Sounds like he was the average one.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 4:54 pm to Boring
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but an entire society based around a random magical high school and a “chosen one” who is kinda mediocre at everything except catching balls in his mouth is dumb.
You’ve basically just described our executive branch at any given time and whatever Ivy League school they attended
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