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re: Harry Potter HBO series looks to be headed in the normal direction...

Posted on 10/8/24 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 2:27 pm to
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I have heard several show runners in the past say that they want to have several people on the writing team that have not read the source material to give a different perspective and to not be burdened with what they think they have to do, while the rest of the writing team is familiar with the material.

I think it’s weird.



It’s actually pretty smart….as long as the ones that have a different perspective on it don’t frick with the original intended meaning of the art. It’s when the folks who haven’t read it are given too much control is when shite goes sideways. HBO has a much better track record of this than pretty much any other outlet.

If this were Amazon Prime, Netflix or the Mouse, I’d be worried. It’s HBO. They deserve some benefit of the doubt as long as the GOT showrunners stay away.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 2:41 pm to
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While he implies that such a thing would be the most satisfying option for the fans, it would not be the "most interesting" option for him.



Posted by wesfau
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 2:57 pm to
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how can someone be a writer for a living and never have read the harry potter books?


I think it'd be pretty easy to ignore YA material if you're a professional writer. Besides that, Rowling is an atrocious writer. It was even more obvious in her non-fantasy fiction, A Casual Vacancy. Just awful stuff.

Her world caught people's imaginations, but her writing wasn't the reason.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 2:59 pm to
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It’s actually pretty smart….as long as the ones that have a different perspective on it don’t frick with the original intended meaning of the art. It’s when the folks who haven’t read it are given too much control is when shite goes sideways. HBO has a much better track record of this than pretty much any other outlet.

If this were Amazon Prime, Netflix or the Mouse, I’d be worried. It’s HBO. They deserve some benefit of the doubt as long as the GOT showrunners stay away.

As long as it's good I won't care, but the writer should always try to know the material they are "adapting"

Half-blood prince was the worst movie because it strayed furthest from the books
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:24 pm to
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Her world caught people's imaginations, but her writing wasn't the reason.



This. It’s perfectly fine reading for children-teens. They’re the target audience. But just on a sentence level, she’s a horrible writer. But give her credit for having a once in a million idea at the right time. Good for her. She made something that will stand the test of time which a lot of writers can’t say.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:27 pm to
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but the writer should always try to know the material they are "adapting"



I mean I agree to a certain extent. I don’t think they need prior knowledge but not reading the first one beforehand would be malpractice lol.

But also, the writers room should be a mix of those kinds of people AND die-hards. That allows for creativity when adapting without butchering the source material. A lot of times when adapting something, showrunners have too many diehards or too many who don’t know much about the material to begin with.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:32 pm to
there are some people who I think would be better DMs in D&D than writers if the pay was the same.

GRR Martin for one.

Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:34 pm to
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GRR Martin for one.

currently for sure. 30 years ago though i'm not sure. he was a pretty damned good writer
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:35 pm to
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How do you get someone to write the show that couldn't even be bothered to read the books
That's half of the superhero movies out there.
Posted by Jay Are
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:40 pm to
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which the clip shows him saying on his podcast).


The clip shows a guy reading a reddit post that summarizes various things Greenwald has said about tv writing before. The only stuff in that clip related to Harry potter is the audio they use from the podcast episode.

It's weird that greenwald took this job, but Rowling and the showrunners know who they're hiring. He's also not the showrunner or Rowling. He doesn't get final say on anything.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:41 pm to
Whaaaa?

A show runner / writer who thinks they can IMPROVE on the source material?

Which they've never even read??



But am I missing something? If JK Rowling is so iron fisted with control over her material, who the everloving hell did THIS guy get to be showrunner?

Something will have to give. Might be he doesn't end up there for too long.
This post was edited on 10/8/24 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:46 pm to
Greenwald isn't the showrunner.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:46 pm to
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The clip shows a guy reading a reddit post that summarizes various things Greenwald has said about tv writing before. The only stuff in that clip related to Harry potter is the audio they use from the podcast episode.

It's weird that greenwald took this job, but Rowling and the showrunners know who they're hiring. He's also not the showrunner or Rowling. He doesn't get final say on anything.


Greenwald needs to get Russillo in the writers room
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:47 pm to
i think it is Francesca Gardiner

did anyone watch His Dark Materials?

that’s the last YA series HBO adapted. how faithful were they there?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:48 pm to
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His Dark Materials

i really wanted it to be good but it never clicked for me.

something was just off.

quote:

how faithful were they there?

i also wonder about this. surely the books were better if HBO decided to spend that much money and gave them 3 seasons despite dwindling viewer numbers.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130305 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:51 pm to
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how faithful were they there?


They incorporated elements from books 2 and 3 from the beginning. I understand why they did as well, because basically one of the main protagonists isn't even introduced until book 2, and they way the books are written, if they were going to do the entire series, they had to do it that way.

The HBO series is pretty damn faithful otherwise. Shockingly so at times.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:56 pm to
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Half-Blood prince book >>>> the movie.


Book’s definitely better but I didnt think the movie was bad.

I feel like two of the main things that would have helped it would have been being split in 2 parts (to include more scenes about Riddle’s background) and then Bonnie Wright wasn’t a great Ginny. She was supposed to be the cool popular girl and it never felt like that to me.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
24684 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 4:12 pm to
Rowling is the boss (Executive Producer) for this series. I’m 100% sure she has the final say

Doesn’t matter who puts the word together, they go by her writing/spirit of the novels.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 4:16 pm to
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Rowling is the boss (Executive Producer) for this series. I’m 100% sure she has the final say

Doesn’t matter who puts the word together, they go by her writing/spirit of the novels.

this gives me some hope
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47197 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 4:24 pm to
Either ways, showrunner or writer, does it really matter? I understand that Greenwald was the one who said that it's the job of the showrunner to 'teach the audience' , and yet this bozo hasn't read the books?

Hell, even I read most of them (dipped out on 6, got bored) but still think the general concept is really good.
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